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We have made a request for tr.wikisource (Wikisource:Language_domain_requests#tr.wikisource.org_.28Turkish.29), it would be great to have tr.wikisource. As you can see meta:List_of_wikipedias#10.2C000.2B_articles tr.wikipedia is growing really very quickly. Especially the new users, want to add so many articles that has to be in wikisource. Thank you--Ugur Basak 10:00, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sure. you will have to ask developers about that. please post a request in, or ask on irc. ThomasV 10:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doesn't bureaucrats handle about new subdomains for wikisource. I look, it seems to be for bug reports:)--Ugur Basak 10:59, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I did handle the first requests, but that was too much work so I decided to stop. the last 2 domains (id and cy) were created without my participation. have a look at bug 4087, and post something similar. I will vote for your bug. ThomasV 11:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]
4333 this is the bug id. Thanks for your interest. Now its time wait --Ugur Basak 11:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I didn't translate your message but I explained it for users who ignore what that bug is, and I put a short explanation about how to vote, because I were searching where I had to vote for a looonnng time :) --LadyInGrey 17:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

thanks. ThomasV 18:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Some questions[edit]

Hi, und natürlich alles beste fúr 2006. Bin so frei und schreibe deutsch. Folgende Fragen bewegen mich

  1. Wie kategorisiere ich? Nirgendwo gelang es mir etwas zu finden. Hier ist es eben anders als in nationalen wikis. Zwar hat die tschechische Wiki mit ihren 40 Artikeln noch kein Problem, jedoch will ich es lůsen. Was für ein Prinzip benutzt man hier? Ich sehe z.B., dass die Slowaken einfach Kategorien machen die sie dan unter die Kategorie Category:Slovensky bringen, wie z.B. die Category:Dokumenty. Wenn ich jetzt aber dür die tschechischen Texte ebenfalls eine Kat für Dokumente will, so habe ich ein Problem, sie hieße ebenfalls Dokumenty.
  2. Selbstverständlich ist dies etwas anderes in einer nationalen Subdomäne Wikisource, also abwarten, und hier die nächste Frage an jemanden, der - wie ich lese - die Aufteilung vorantrieb. Wann lohnt es sich über eine eigene nationale Wikisource nachzudenken? Die Umstellung kostet sicherlich etwas Energie, je weniger Beiträge, umso schneller geht es, könnte man sagen... Gibt es da so eine Richtschnur wie ab 100 Artikel ja, oder ist es nach Gutdünken? Nebenbei, die cs:wiki hat jetzt 21.000 Artikel und mit sicherheit wird die Zahl der Dokumente in Wikisource etwas schneller wachsen als bislang.

Für einige Hinweise wäre ich dankbar, ansonsten viel Spaß, -jkb- 21:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I suggest that you request a cs wikisource. there is no need for 100 articles. all we need is to be sure that someone will patrol the new wiki on a regular basis, to avoid vandalism. ThomasV 07:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure I read your page, thanks for hint. I'll answer some later as I will probably have some more questions. Thx, -jkb- 11:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. Concerning the request a cs-subdomain for wikisource, there are some questions I would like to be answered, and i hope you can do it. So:

  1. how long does it take to get the request ok? One day, one week, one mont, one year...?
  2. what about the name: I can imagine that the cs:wiki will have some ideas, about which it will be discussing some more time - when do we have to propose the new name?
  3. now I am an admin on; after getting a new subdomain for cs wikisource, there will be needed also an admin or maybe a bureaucrat; do I have to ask for it once again or will it be done authomatically or something else?
  4. if I will get an admin or bureaucrat on cs.wikisource - what will happen with my rights as an admin here? I would like to keep the rights and to help the fight the vandallism here also in the future, so far as I can
  5. on the sollution of the technical problems I will ask you next time

So long and thx for your answer, -jkb- 16:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the time it takes : follow the procedure on the page for requests. I guess there should be nobody opposing the creation of the subdomain, so after 1 or 2 weeks, file a bug in bugzilla. once that is done, the time it takes will depend on how much time brion has. it may take weeks.
your rights in the new wiki: you'll have to request rights on the new wiki.
your rights here: you will keep them
the name: it is your problem. :-) you may change it later.

ThomasV 16:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]



J'ai retiré le statut d'admin à Theo. On a pourtant besoin de nouveaux admins sur Wikisource, vu la quantité de spams reçus. Je propose donc d'attendre un peu avant de prendre une décision définitive. Yann 10:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

merci. je pense qu'on recoit bcp de spam car beaucoup de sites pointent vers ce site. les nouveaux sous-domaines n'en recoivent presque pas, surtout s'ils sont petits. ThomasV 10:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

buy viagra and others...[edit]

Hi. In the last days there is a plenty of vandalism and spam, every time the same (some pharma spams like buy viagra...), but every time from another IP address. As I have seen, you made some reverts without having blocked the IP, so I guess I should do the same - ? -jkb- 14:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I did not block them because I noticed they change their IP very quickly. ThomasV 14:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, it would have no impact. OK. -jkb- 14:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not Nice.[edit]

I would appreciate if you had given me a talk message on that deletion, or even helped me by putting it in en subdomain. There was nothing informing me on the contribution page nor the front page that all English contributions should go to en. I appreciate that you are an admin and you deal with a lot of garbage, but I'm trying to do some positive work here. Thanks, -Kwh 07:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

my policy is to delete misplaced things as soon as possible, so that the contributor is still here to realize his contribution was not at the right place, and so that he does not invest too much time on it.
sorry about that. it was not intended to be mean, just to spare your time and mine.
normally, when you created the article, you should have seen a warning that texts in English are not appropriate here.
ThomasV 08:04, 12 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I understand, also I came across some of the discussions and I now understand the situation with the language subdomains... gotcha. Thanks -Kwh 08:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm like to apply for cs:source soon[edit]

I think I will apply for it, with our about 40 pages we shall not have so many problems by moving to another place. Yesterday evening i started something like brain storming and voting on 1. whether we want to have a own domain and 2. if there is a consensus that I will be a sysop-bureaucrat (see here in the middle of the page). On this way it will be quite official. If the questions are replied (sure they will be) positively, I will apply for it. As I said some days before, I will naturally have a look also here to see who is vandalizing again etc. - don't worry be happy :-)... -jkb- 13:41, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

great. ThomasV 14:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi and good day. I have just applied for the cs.domain, see here. I hope you can supposrt it and also I hope I can discuss with you some days later the modalities of the movements there – I think no problem, as everything in Czech is categorized by myself. All the best for the evening, -jkb- 16:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hallo, I'd like to ask you something. First, thanks for you support. As you said, the name of the new language domain can be decided also later. So, in my application (here) I did not choose a name, as the Czech wiki is still discussiong this. But a user there told me, he spoke on this topic with a developer or so and he told him, this is not possible and not usual. So, is it all right or not? Thx, -jkb- 17:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do not know. this developer is probably right. ThomasV 18:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Elephant and the Blindmen[edit]

Good on you for deleting this. If it comes back again, please do not exhort the anon user to post it on en:wikisource. It is a copyvio because Albert Turner, the author, was still publishing in 1975 so must have lived at least that long. —Theo (Talk) 22:22, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

British locations[edit]

Thank you for pointing out my error. I read the archive before beginning the transwiki process. The problem for en:wikipedia is that the list is too long, unlinked, and presented as an article rather than a list. I can see that there is some merit in the list and think that EN:WP is its most appropriate location. If EN:WP does not want it then it should not be on any Wikimedia project and interested parties can find similar lists elsewhere on the web. I will now fix those links. —Theo (Talk) 22:22, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: chinese articles[edit]

All articles prefixed "Broken/" are in Japanese. None is in Chinese. I know how hard it is for you to distinguish Chinese and Japanese. I do now know why they have been prefixed "Broken/". They can be deleted. You do not have to wait for my check up since I as an administrator can still see their history after deletion.

I also see some articles that should be moved to language subdomains from the list of all articles.--Jusjih 11:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I advertised the new vote on the local scriptorium ( LadyInGrey 19:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

thanks! ThomasV 19:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I advertised on gl.wikisource to the admin. (
great! many thanks ThomasV 19:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have advertised the new vote on the Chinese scriptorium and voted yes for, en, fr, zh.--Jusjih 01:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Gubb 13:28, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Why is the main page of Cantonese disappeared? - CantoneseWiki 20:39, 19 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

silvestre, es:wikisource. template interwiki-info[edit]

Thaks, thomas, I undestand your language. you contact with user:LadyInGrey, please. Thaks --Silvestre 13:57, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Thomas, es:Monobook.js is updated, but it does not work.

some other function is necessary?.

A greeting and thanks es:Silvestre,(Talk)

you forgot "addLoadEvent(bilingualLink);"

<div title="beginning"></div>[edit]

Hi Thomas

I see that you added <div title="beginning"></div> to the top of da:s:Keiserens nye Klæder. As far as I can see it doesn't really do anything apart from removing one of the two linebreaks above the first paragraph in the previous revision. As this seems like a rather cumbersome way to remove a linebreak I was just wondering if it is actually doing/supposed to be doing something else as well? --Christian S 20:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it is used by the bilingual extension, for paragraph alignment. check
ThomasV 20:19, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah, it makes sense. Thanks! By the way, do you know what happened to the ⇔-link to the bilingual comparison pages? They seem to work at Latin wikisource, but they do no longer appear next to interwikilinks at da or en. --Christian S 20:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

there was a change in the wikimedia software, so you need to update monobook.js (check the last change on fr) ThomasV 20:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Updated at da, now it works there. Thanks a lot! --Christian S 20:50, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bonjour ThomasV,[edit]

Je suis en train de travailler avant-dernière phase de la rédaction de Saint-écriture - les notes de fin. J'ai copié le modèle français 1. /1, mais il existaient plusieurs mille de notes. J'ai copié facilement dans l'Excel le modèle, mais est-ce qu'on peut faire filer les chiffres en les augmentant dans la suite? Cela pourrait m'aider énormement. -- 08:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)hr:Tomahawk CheerockyReply[reply]

je ne comprends pas la question... que voulez vous faire? ThomasV 08:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks !![edit]

Thank you very much for your traslation. --LadyInGrey 02:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply][edit]

Dear ThomasV,

Wikisource:Language domain requests. Please...


sorry, but I am no longer involved in the creation of subdomains. You have to contact developers directly. please read the instructions on the page. ThomasV 17:02, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

what to ...[edit]

Hello. So, sooner as I thought, it happened. This morning I requested my bureaucrat access (here), I hope that's all right. Now please I have some questions to the procedure and I need a little help:

  • as far as i can see, the pages were moved but they also stayed here - I suppose they must be deleted, i can do it, but confirm please
  • is it necessary to make something like a redirect on the old Main_Page:Česky here?
  • is there anything else what I should do after creating of the new domain?

Thx, you will see me here in the future just like in the past, but I guess in the next some days i have to do something on cs.... -jkb- 13:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes you will have to delete the pages, in order to prevent unaware people from keeping to edit them here. I can delete them with a bot if they are in a category, but not right now because my computer is not running at the moment. otoh, there is not too many of them, so I guess you may as well delete them manually.
it will help to make a redirect on the old main page if it is visited.
nothing else to do, I guess.
ThomasV 14:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for help. I will delete the remaining czech pages by myself in these days, might be that I will need them here to controll something. A redirect on the main page should be done also a bit later after we consolidate the new one. OK, nice weekend, -jkb- 15:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thx for answers. I think i know what to do. -jkb- 16:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hu. subdomain[edit]

Hi. There has been a request to create a .hu subdomain for wikisource. here I don't know if you are the right person to ask to do it, but I would like to ask you to help if you can. --Arjuna 09:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am no longer involved in the creation of subdomains. please follow the procedure indicated on the request page. ThomasV 09:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


please change the mainpage slogon of the chinese wikisource "自由的图书馆 / 自由的圖書館" to "自由的源文档库". thanks a lot!--Vipuser 10:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Funny, I am just trying to solve one very easy problem - to make an interwiki in the left collumn, to show, that this document is avaiable also in some other languages... Am I right, that this feature doesn't function in Wikisource? And, that in this case I must use templates like Pater noster etc.? Thx, -jkb- 17:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it works. just check how other subdomains do. ThomasV 17:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow. I tried on de.source, they told me it doesn't function... -jkb- 20:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

please be more specific. I do not unerstand what you are talking about. ThomasV 22:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, it is no problem to make an interwiki on a text in a domain like de.wikisource etc., but I have problems if I want to make interwiki from cs.wikisource to a page here, i.e. multilingual ---jkb- 11:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it does not work with only between subdomains. ThomasV 11:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes yes, now I have it, in cases where it is necessary I make templates or something like that, happy rest of the Easter, in Berlin will be raining soon, ---jkb- 12:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kannada Wikisource[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your suggestion and encouragement. Yes, I believe this is the time for requesting kn.wikisource subdomain, as the number of contributors are increasing now. But before requesting the subdomain i wanted to learn more about the policies of wikisource usage and articles. Like what can be considered as a freetext? If there is a poem, how do we decide whether it can be put or not on wikisource? Can you help me getting answers? Where can I find the policies related to these kind of things? Thanks. --Mana|ಮನ 02:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here are the rules: Texts on wikisource must (1) be in the public domain, or have been published under a free licence and (2) have been published elsewhere (no original texts are accepted). There is one exception to rule 2: wikisource can publish translations of texts that have been published elsewhere. In this case the translation is a collective work of wikisource contributors, and is not considered as the work of a single wikisource user.
so if you want to put a poem on wikisource, the only thing you have to check is that it is in the public domain (ie no copyright violation)
ThomasV 07:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thomas, Thank you! Today I have raised the request for Kannada wikisource subdomain. Thanks. --Mana|ಮನ 20:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for creating category for Kannada. Do you want me to categorize all the Kannada wikisource pages into Category:Kannada ? I can do that. Also, in the Domain request page, there are more than about 10 supportes for Kannada subdomain request. Can you please do the needful now? Or should we wait for some more time? Thank you! - Mana|ಮನ 22:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you want to have a subdomain created, you have to ask developers, not me. the best way is to contact brion on IRC. Before you do that, create a list of all the pages you want to be moved to your subdomain, and post a bug in bugzilla, requesting the creation of your subdomain. ThomasV 07:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thomas, I am going to prepare the list of all the pages to be moved to Kannada subdomain. In domain requests page, it is mentioned as we can take help from ThomasBot, if we wish. And, in the talk page of ThomasBot, I found this message by you 'If you wish to use this bot on your site please contact me.' Can you guide me what is the most preferred way of preparing the list of pages? Will categorization of all the pages into a new category do? - ಮನ|Mana 05:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the bot is for editing pages. it will not move pages. if you want to have pages moved to kn, please ask developers. the bot cannot do that. ThomasV 18:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot - hungarian articles[edit]


Do you still run your bot? If yes, could you please collect articles listed in the categories at the bottom of Main Page:Magyar/links? There are three of them actually, and my bot is not configured on wikisource so maybe it's easier for you now. Please reply on my wp talkpage, thanks. --grin 08:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you deleted what I wrote[edit]

Hi, you deleted what I wrote, now I have to rewrite it.Travb 08:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the logo vote[edit]

Hi,ThomasV.I think it's the time to fix the wikisource logo. If you don't mind, I will help to boot a new vote.--Vipuser 09:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sure, go ahead. I really do not have time to organize it at the moment, but I will participate. why don't you send a message to the mailing list? ThomasV 09:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hu language subdomain request[edit]

What do you think, if hungarian subdomain run, will we have possibility to move the changes in environment (changes in Mediawiki.../hu messages) to the new hungarian subdomain in a simple way? I mean by that, will we have to start the whole translation work from zero level, or could we apply changes I made here, in oldwikisource? Gubb 17:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do not know. you might want to ask developers to move the articles you created here. ThomasV 22:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Free Culture[edit]

ThomasV, it was just pointed out on the English sub-domain that Free Culture is released under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial license, which unfortunately is incompatible with the GDFL. Since Wikimedia projects can only have public domain, GFDL, or GFDL-compatible licensed works, we have no choice but to delete Free Culture on our sub-domain. I would imagine, that since the other translations are likewise under the CC A-NC license, they will have to be deleted as well.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 04:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

wow... I cannot believe copyright fundamentalism has gone that far... ThomasV 05:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You're telling me. WMF has gone completely paranoid about copyright statuses. Everything we host must be allowed to be distributed commercially, so even things that we could host we might not be allowed to because of the stupid WMF copyright policies. For a project like WS, we could be losing a lot of good material because of dumb incompatibilities.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 06:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


OK, you seem to be a bit of an authority here. But I don't see how (so soon after they were written) or why my recent comments could be deprecated, so I'm not at all pleased that you deleted the page. Where do we discuss categorization? Robin Patterson 01:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it's not your comment that were deprecated, it is the discussion you were referring to. you could have seen by yourself that it dated back from 2004. if you want to discuss categories, I suggest you use the scriptorium. ThomasV 02:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot - estonian articles[edit]

Can You please transfer articles listed in Main Page:Eesti/links to Estonian subdomain. --WikedKentaur 21:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please help moving articles to Thai subdomain[edit]

็Hi Thomas. I have unfinished project in Wikisource. But since new subdomain has been created for articles in Thai, I will continue overthere. Please help moving written articles to new subdomain at, thank you ;>--Toutou 13:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

if you want pages to be moved with their histories, please ask a developer for that; I cannot do it. same holds for estonian above. ThomasV 17:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request user rename[edit]

You probably don't frequent very often (most of the work happens on the language ones), but since you're the most active bureacrat (out of two) on this Wikisource, I'll give the rename request to you.

I would like to be renamed from User:Ambush Commander to User:Edward Z. Yang in anticipation for the implementation of single login. Thanks. Ambush Commander 23:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done. sorry for the delay. ThomasV 10:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No need to be sorry about it. I'm still waiting for a rename on Commons, and Wikinews refused to rename me. Thanks a bunch! Edward Z. Yang 16:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: [2][edit]

"I have seen that you imported hungarian pages from to here. could you also delete these pages from ?"

Yes, we will delete duplicated pages if you want. Gubb 06:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It'd be better if a sysop at the Vietnamese Wikisource were to do it, using the Special:Import function, so that the page edits would be preserved. I no longer have sysop status there, but I'll try to get in touch with Clytie, the sole remaining sysop. Otherwise, I'll take care of it when I get the chance. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 18:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, Clytie hasn't been active for some time. We held a vote of sorts to elect sysops, but only Clytie got more than one vote of support. (Our community is rather small...) I'll import the pages manually soon. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) 06:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thai wikisource[edit]

Hi! ThomasV, I'm trying to flag all thai pages on as "moved to th" with a bot, but no success so far. There are too many articles to do manually. All those articles have been moved to thai wikisouce. If you come across this message, please be informed that you can delete all of those articles. Thank you. Toutou 14:14, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also, please advice to how configure to run a bot on Many thanks. Toutou
oh, and am I supposed to do this manually? ThomasV 08:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

admin vote[edit]

Hi, ThomasV,

I've created the skeleton vote at Wikisource:Administrator. It's commented out, so you'll have to bring up the source and read it. Could you go over it, and make any changes you deem necessary before we go ahead with the vote? Thanks.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it's fine with me. you can go ahead. ThomasV 13:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Das erste Jahrzehnt der Weltsprache Volapük[edit]

Dear Thomas,

Thank you for your answer. I'm new here, so I don't understand all the rules very well. So you say I must move the text in the title to the German wikisource? OK, I'll do that. But let's see: if I interpret you correctly, that means texts in German cannot be here? But I've noticed other wikisources have texts in languages other than the 'main' one -- why is that so? What exactly is the policy here? Smeira 10:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

this site is for pages in languages that do not have a subdomain. other wikisources should only have texts in their language. in some cases it is difficult to decide, eg if a text is written in two languages. however, in the case of your text it is clearly german. ThomasV 13:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

moving text to en:[edit]

dear Thomas! thank you for your note. I tried to move it there but did not succeed. I put my name in the author list there but could not open a new page. I started a page on

. can you move it there and help me please sincerely Uwe kils 16:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New subdomain[edit]

We are in the process of starting a new subdomain for Ancient Greek, see incubator:Ws/grc. We want to transwiki about 100 pages from the Greek wikisource to the new domain. How are we to proceed? el:User:Ανδρέας 20:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Volapük subdomain[edit]

Thanks for your strong support, ThomasV! I had once tried to request a Volapük wikisource, but I was told then that the policy was not to create subdomains simply because there were many texts in Wikisource (one of the syspos, Yann, has lots of Sanskrit texts already but no subdomain); rather, subdomains were created when there were several interested contributors. Apparently I am the only Volapük geek around here; it would be against the policy to create a subdomain only for me, so they said I should simply stay in the old wikisource. Isn't that so? Has the policy changed? --Smeira 11:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

what we want to avoid is to create a wiki that nobody takes care of. if you plan to take care of it that's fine with me. I think that you have demonstrated enough long-term commitment. ThomasV 23:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dear Thomas,
Thanks for your support for a Volapük subdomain. I suppose it would be a step towards more prestige... (what are the navigation advantages that you mentioned?) I just keep remembering what user Yann said once about also having tons of Sanskrit texts here without a specific Sanskrit subdomain... and also, isn't it difficult to transfer a large set of texts to a new subdomain? Especially when there are external links already set up (for instance, I have many links from the Volapük Wikipedia to this wikisource -- e.g., a Volapük writer page with, in his bibliography, direct links to the texts stored here; see, e.g., vo:Johann Schmidt)? (By the way, where do I go to ask for a subdomain? I once did this, but it was so long ago I can't remember anymore...) --Smeira 22:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do not agree with yann on that; I think that you have demonstrated far enough commitment, and that we can trust you as a reliable subdomain maintainer. You will have to transfer texts using the special:Import function. The longer you wait, the more work this will take. the same holds for the wikipedia links: they will need to be updated. This is why I believe you should create this subdomain as soon as possible. In order to request the creation of a subdomain, the most efficient method is to ask on IRC, channel #wikimedia-tech. (having submitted a bug before might help; however if you only submit a bug chances are that nobody will care) ThomasV 09:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi ThomasV,

I am trying to get a good request for a Volapük wikisource domain going -- I'm going to try to place one in meta, as User:555 had suggested on my page. I've seen at meta:Language proposal policy that they want new projects to come from the incubator, and also that they want at least five people interested in contributing to the new project; but this is probably meant more for wikipedias than for wikisources (for which, I gather, oldwikisource plays the role of the incubator). I can't get on IRC; how does one do that? Maybe my simple internet connection won't do that? At any rate, I hope that my having posted this request at meta will get some attention for the Volapük wikisource. --Smeira 02:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've just finished the request at meta -- it is here. I hope I did it right. Now let's see if they think a community of one is still acceptable. --Smeira 03:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

if the policy is now to have 5 people interested in participating, I guess you will not get a domain soon. but you can reasonably complain about this policy; I do not think it is a good one... it is true that we had to close a wikisource subdomain because it was abandonned; however I do not think that this would be a major disaster, that requires such drastic countermeasures... ThomasV 08:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tamil wikisource[edit]

Hi,We have voted for the creation of tamil wikisource and there is lot of support. please see . But the request is pending for long time. we would like to get the tamil wikisource started immediately as we have lot of our ancient literature worksto be uploaded there. please let us know if we have to do anything more to start the process of creating domain for tamil wikisource. we assure to take care of the domain. Thanks--Ravidreams 11:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes, you have to ask the developers. I am not the person in charge of creating subdomains. go to IRC and request it there. ThomasV 07:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. I will contact the developers. I tried already in IRC. BUt will try again.--Ravidreams 10:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, I move here a request by User:Smeira from Proposed deletions. -jkb- 09:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm going to try to run a little bot (under account SmeiraBot) to change category "Dalebüd" to category "Dalebüds". I didn't see a special place to post bots or bot request, so I'm doing it here. It should use the standard category change program from the pywikipedia subdirectory of Python programs. --SmeiraBot 20:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, could you make the history of [3] accessible for me on [4]. Thx. Niki Talk 13:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please see here and comment[edit]

Please see here. If you have anything to say so comment there please. Thx, -jkb- 18:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hallo Thomas, lässt sich die Aufteilung der Ansicht beim proofreaden - derzeit 50/50 - auf 30/70 ändern, bei niedrigen Auflösungen (1024x768) sind die Bilder so gut wie garnicht lesbar ([5]). Ich selbst habe zwar eine höhere Auflösung, aber einige Nutzer bei de-ws nicht, was die Anzahl potentieller Korrekturleser noch weiter minimiert. Ich hoffe dich hat die angebrachte Kritik an deiner Ext im Skriporium nicht allzu mitgenommen, manchmal geht es bei uns recht rau zu, was aber in der Regel nicht persönlich gemeint ist. Gruß Xarax aka -- 17:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Es ist leider nicht moeglich, diese Aufteilung zu verändern. Aber bei diesem Buch würde ich empfehlen, die Margins abzuschneiden (d.h. ein neues djvu zu erzeugen), weil sie verbrauchen vieles Platz.
Kritik ist für mich viel wichtiger, wenn sie kommt von Leute, die die Erweiterung tatsächlich benützen (wie z. B. Du), als wenn sie kommt von Leute, die die Erweiterung von vorne raus nicht benützen wollen, und nur spass an kritisieren finden.
Ich werde versuchen, dieses Zoom zu verbessern, wenn ich Zeit finde.
ThomasV 09:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Naja, es gibt doch einen Trick, wenn Du eine 30/70 Aufteilung brauchst :
1. Das Firefox Fenster zu vergrössen, bis es 150% breiter als deine Bildschirm Auflösung ist.
2. Die Seite wiederzuladen : das Bild wird jetzt grösser sein.
3. Das Fenster zurück zu Bildschirm Auflösung zu reduzieren
das Ergebnis sollte ungefähr 30/70 sein.
ThomasV 09:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Danke Thomas. Ich hab versucht deine Extension auf meinem lokalen Wiki einzubinden, funktiert leider nur teilweise. Ich habe mehrere MW Versionen probiert, aber es werden keine thumbs generiert. Es sieht so aus, als würden auf commons die thumbs bei Abruf generiert. Wenn ich auf [6] und in der Url die Größe auf irgendeinen Wert ändere, bekomme ich trotzdem ein Ergebniss. Das funktioniert bei mir leider nicht. Hast du irgendeine Idee dazu? Gruß -- 13:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For images that are larger than the half page, thumbs are generated by a 404 handler. you have to install the WebStore for that, and to configure Apache so that 404 errors in the image directory are redirected to the handler. ThomasV 09:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanx, it flies :) Xarax aka -- 13:52, 16 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Icon and PageQuality()[edit]

Hi, ThomasV,

I'm desperate with the function pageQuality() at catalan Wikisource, and I was wondering if you could please give me some help.

I've copied ca:s:Plantilla:PageQuality like fr, en or it WS's ones.

I've inserted it into ca:s:Pàgina:ConstitucionsCatalanesVolumIr.jpg, with diferents parameters (50%, 75%).

"Pàgina" is the namespace for the "page" namespace; at ca:WS there are no "Page" namespace, but it seems it is not important (because the it:WS) neither has it, and there it works what at ca:WS doesn't work.

The problem is that the onglet/image/icon of 25%, 50%, 75% or 100%.png or .svg does not appear!

I first have tested with my ca:s:Usuari:Aleator/Common.js and there I have tested lots of variants of the pageQuality(), but none seems to work. I have considered the substring of 7, with "Pàgina:", "P%C3%A0gina:"...

Should I open one bugzilla?

Thank you! -Aleator 13:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

try ca:s:Usuari:Aleator/common.js, "Pàgina:" ThomasV 14:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sorry, user defined js has to be in monobook.js ThomasV 14:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks a lot (not only for this). -Aleator 15:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

link replacing[edit]

Hallo ThomasV! Ich hätte gern auf Wikisource diese Links umgebogen auf Theodor Fontane. Gruß, Jonathan Groß 18:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Polish version[edit]

Hello, could you tell me the history of deleted Księga Welesa (moved to pl), especially the first user, who added it? Thanks. Niki Talk 17:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here it is :

  • Deletion log
   * 16:48, 26 August 2005 LadyInGrey (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Księga Welesa" ‎ (moved to pl.wikisource)
  • Page history
   * 22:13, 31 July 2005 (diff) . . Niki K (Talk | contribs | block) (Deseczka 2а (II 2а))
   * 22:11, 31 July 2005 (diff) . . Niki K (Talk | contribs | block) (Deseczka 2а (II 2а))
   * 21:06, 17 June 2005 . . Niki K (Talk | contribs | block)

ThomasV 19:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Volapük domain[edit]

Hi ThomasV,
I had already asked for a domain, and the request has been conditionally approved. I'm now trying to understand how to translate system messages in BetaWiki (and hoping the translations I did for the Volapük Wikipedia can be imported).
By the way, there's now a proposal for closing the Volapük Wikipedia. In case you have time to consider the issue, your vote could help the cause of keeping it alive (assuming of course you think this is worth doing :-). --Smeira 15:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ProofreadPage extensions on new wikisources[edit]

Hi, was just wondering if the extension is automatically enabled on newly created wikisources. I saw that there is no "Page" namespace in the newly created Armenian Wikisource, thus it hasn't been enabled? Thought to ask you first, before asking for it to be enabled through bugzilla. Thanks. Teak 01:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the extension does not need a namespace in order to work; if you also want a namespace, it has to be requested separately.
check Special:Version to see if the extension is enabled on your wiki.
ThomasV 08:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Somehow the idea of checking Special:Version escaped me... - Teak 14:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

rename user[edit]

Hi! Could you rename me from User:oldUN to User:Accurimbono, as for other project?

Thanks a lot! --Accurimbono 19:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

doneThomasV 23:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks!!! I'm for updating the few link to my old username, for privacy reason. Thanks! --Accurimbono 13:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Could you look at this? I don't know if it is a valide page with all that external links? Thanks, --LadyInGrey 21:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i don't know either ThomasV 08:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Dear Thomas, your new Proofread's extension in, as always, very useful and beautiful. I just wanted to know if there were the possibility to personalize colors. Thank you Aubrey

yes of course. the color classes are defined in fr:s:MediaWiki:Monobook.css, quality1 to quality4.
you need to create them on
users can also define different colors on their own css.
ThomasV 12:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proofread Page[edit]

Hi Thomas, I finally got down to business here. Thanks, Dovi 13:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MediaWiki: Proofreadpage index template[edit]

Hi, is there any way to turn the function off? Looks like a very useful tool, but I'd like to turn it off before it's fully translated and adapted to hy:ws (with all the necessary templates and so on). Thanks - Teak 17:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sorry, I forgot to document this.
you do not need to wait until it is translated, you can translate it yourself.
for this, you have to edit s:hy:Mediawiki:Proofreadpage index attributes : it is a list of fields, separated by new lines.
then you are free to define the other template as you want
if this is too complicated, you can simply turn it off with "var proofreadpage_index_noauto=1" in your monobook.js
ThomasV 18:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it was a nice time anyway[edit]

Thanks for your mail and your support. You can believe I am not very amused to make such a difficult decision. But, I had and I have a special idea how a wikisource domain should be, I do orientate me on the discussions here and on the en.source or the de.source. But when people start to try to reorganize the whole project like a subdomain of a wiki, where everybody is fighting to everybody, when there is no discussion but edit wars and reverts, and, very important, when there is no time to discuss the next goals and the strategy, so I do not think I have to do something here. And, I am not like to be a bureaucrat of the domain, where proxy wars from the wiki domain are being fighted, and I can do nothing against it. As I said, I keep my rights in the moment, but that's all. It was a nice time here, anyway. -jkb- 20:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proofreadpage statistics[edit]

Hi, can you please add the page status categories for hywikisource to your bots script. The categories are:

Սրբագրված = Proofread

Հաստատված = Validated

Thanks. Teak 03:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 13:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for adding the hywikisource categories to the statistics. I'm wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to include the validated page count in the "proofread" statistics. For example there are 100 pages in the page namespace, 65 of them are proofread and 20 of these are validated. As of now the statistics would show 100:45:20, which creates the wrongful impression that 55 pages are untouched, which wouldn't be the case. I guess an alternative way would be to modify the page status handling so that the validated pages are included in both "proofread" and "validated" categories, which wouldn't be too convenient when weeding out the proofread but not validated pages... ― Teak 16:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Username Change[edit]

Hi, Is it possible for you to change my username from User:Reedy Boy to User:Reedy, as i am having it changed on the english wikipedia, and want to get the rest of my accounts inline for the single user login


Reedy Boy 14:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks! Reedy 23:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I am w:User:Ryulong. However, someone registered that name here, and now I am unable to complete account unification because it does not match any password I have used. Could you usurp the name such that I have the account User:Ryulong here?--Ryulong-en 02:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 15:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you.--Ryulong 05:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, is it possible to usurp User:REX here? I'm an Indonesian Wikipedian sysop and currently on merging my accounts globally. ^^ 12:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 15:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Username change request[edit]

Hello. Could you rename Xyrael to Sean Whitton so that my username is the same everywhere and I can do a global SUL account merge? Sean Whitton is what I use everywhere else. Thanks in advance :) Xyrael 10:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Username change[edit]

Please rename Miko Stavrev to Мико. SUL. Thanks.--Miko Stavrev 08:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi from Italy[edit]

Only to thank you for Proofread extension... I guess, you are the ThomasV presently working about an OCR tool. How can I know more about the project? I've an old idea about the "perfect OCR" from Dragon , by I'm not a programmer!--Alex brollo 07:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the ocr robot runs on the toolserver. it uses tesseract. I works with Proofreadpage. On and there is an 'ocr' button on empty pages of the 'page' namespace. ThomasV 08:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename account User:Cœur[edit]

Please rename or delete account User:Cœur which looks quite old with no edits at all. I am fr:User:Cœur and I can't merge this account with all the other projects, because here it is not mine. Thanks. Cœur 16:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh, sorry, forget about it: the account was mine but the password reminder just took sooo long to arrive in my mailbox. Cœur 17:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Thomas. Is it possible to include in the table produced by the bot percentage-of-total columns for "proofread" and "validated" works? Thanks, - Mtmelendez 18:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes, but I do not want to do it on this page. The reason is that I do not keep a record of the data. Instead, I use the history of the page in order to build the graph. So, this page is the data, and I do not want to change its format too much, nor to overload it. a possibility would be to include a template in this page, or to use another page. ThomasV 08:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I moved the template to another page, so that the above page can be edited by anyone. ThomasV 06:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Zephyrus → Zyephyrus[edit]

Thank you ThomasV. - --Zyephyrus 11:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

account renaming request: Nct → stephane.magnenat[edit]

Hi, I would like to rename my current username "nct" to my real name "stephane.magnenat", prior to SUL account creation. Thank you. --Nct 08:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 11:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot username rename[edit]

Hi, I'd like my bot User:Computer to be renamed to User:タチコマ robot. This rename request is per my wikimedia wide bot username rename. I have decided to have a single username to more efficiently use SUL. Thanks.

  • If this is not the right place to make this request, please move it to the right place.

-- Cat chi? 12:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 11:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hallo Thomas! Im Zuge des Single User Logins möchte ich gerne das Konto St-fl in mein globales Konto Stefan umbenannt haben. Dazu müsstest du zunächst Stefan in irgendwas anderes umbenennen, damit der Name frei wird. Anschließend kannst du dann St-fl nach Stefan umbenennen. Bitte gib mir auf meiner Diskussionsseite bei de:wp Bescheid, wenn du die Umbenennung durchgeführt hast, damit ich nicht das Konto Stefan versehentlich erneut automatisch anlege. Beste Grüße, --St-fl 23:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Beleg der Identität, siehe auch Versionsgeschichte: StefanReply[reply]

done ThomasV 11:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dankeschön. Kannst du jetzt bitte noch die Weiterleitungen User:St-fl und User talk:St-fl löschen? Vielen Dank, --Stefan »Στέφανος«  13:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SUL request[edit]

Dear bureaucrat. This is joseph from Turkish Wikipedia. I want to usurp the account named locally as "joseph" for SUL merge. Here is confirmation Thanks. (any message here please) -- 06:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 10:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SUL: Lee-SUL → Lee[edit]

Hi, I'm Lee from Sinhala wikipedia. I need the ownership of the username Lee in order to complete my SUL setup. The current user Lee has no edits on this wiki. Please help me with this.

Thanks in advance.--Lee-SUL 14:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 12:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks :-) --Lee 12:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Usurpation request[edit]

Dear ThomasV, first of all please apologize my bad english (I'm italian). ;) As I asked before here and here to the stewards, I would like to take the user name "Lucas". Infact as "Lucas" I am sysop on italian wikipedia and I am contributor in many others Wikimedia projects (, commons, all of them already unified). The user "Lucas" here on meta, has only one old edit. It is possible to rename it and than unify "Lucas" with mine? Many thanks in advance. --Lucas (talk) 01:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

done ThomasV 12:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

moved comment[edit]

Hi, I hope you dont mind .. I have moved your question to the talk page, where I will respond. --John Vandenberg 19:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sure, np ThomasV 19:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  1. I saw that problem some time ago, but I can't find "where" is the problem. Yesterday I edit the mediawiki messages but nothing happened (I made a minor change).
  2. In this page: s:es:Ayuda:Nivel de las páginas (copied from s:en:Help:Page Status) we haven't got "the green colour".
  3. ca.wikisource has the same problem with the colours on the index pages.

If you find what is wrong, please tell me. Thanks in advance. --LadyInGrey 17:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you need to use the same names for the quality categories and in the system messages. check on a subdomain where it works. ThomasV 22:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help.
I did the changes, but it don't work correctly. Look at s:es:Índice:Rojeces de Marte.djvu (page 5 is validated but green colour pages don't work). --LadyInGrey 14:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you do not need the <pre> commands in your css file. this might be the reason. ThomasV 17:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perfect!! Thanks. --LadyInGrey 20:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Lo respetaré, simplemente no entendía porque no se colocaban los enlaces faltantes en español. Lo que hice fue simplemente mostrar la información correcta, tema que parecía que Ud. no quería hacer. Por otro lado, ¿si lo que yo hice estaba mal, porque no revirtió mi edición y borró los enlaces que agregué? Bórrelos y ahórrese sus advertencias. --LadyInGrey 18:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Could you please enable your bot to run also on pt.wikisource, to do OCR requests? If it isn't possible, sharing your code with me can be a good alternative :) 555 18:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sure, but you need to tell me the category name for ocr requests ThomasV 06:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The category is s:pt:Categoria:!Pedidos de OCR. Thank you so much for enabling it. 555 00:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sorry, i did not have time to do this until now... I do not forget, though ThomasV 09:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
it is now enabled. sorry for the delay ThomasV 10:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem. Thanks! 555 21:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

renaming PAJD[edit]

Hi. User PAJD asked me to be renamed to Petrus Adamus as he thought I could do it. I guess he will confirm it here. Regards, -jkb- 09:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Yes, I confirmate the request. --PAJD 13:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the user Petrus Adamus already exists ThomasV 10:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In fact I do not understand what happened exactly. Here I see indeed that the account has been created automatically (29.01.2009), which is normal when somebody with a SUL-Account visits this domain. In the SUL util for the user I see that a SUL account does not exist (by 02.02.2009). More over, the SUL utility does not show some other existing accounts of the user: the renaming of PAD to Petrus Adamus on the cs.source [7] and for instance also the account here on the Oldwikisource. So, I assume the user has visited this domain while logged in as Petrus Adamus somewhere else not knowing that he will be registered automatically here even without merging his SUL account. -jkb- 13:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The automatically created account exists but I would like to relocate the history of PAJD to the new account too (formally an usurpation is needed). The page SUL util has always an big delay, therefore the SUL-Account might be shown after one month or also later. --PAJD 21:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SUL really does show that my account isn't unified, although I have unified it. Despite of that I please you, rename me, usurping the present, automatically created Petrus Adamus. I have this name in all the projects, except of this one. --PAJD 23:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Couly you please rename me? --PAJD 09:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am sorry but I received the following message when trying to rename Petrus Adamus : "User Petrus Adamus has been migrated to the unified login system. Renaming it will cause the local user to be detached from the global one." If you are Petrus Adamus in the other projects, you should be able to log in here as Petrus Adamus. ThomasV 09:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Could you please give me a proof that you are own the unified 'Petrus Adamus' account ? (for example, write a signed statement on your talk page at meta). ThomasV 10:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pray see my user page in Meta, I have placed a confirmation there. Of course, I am now able to log in here as Petrus Adamus, nevertheless, I would like to preserve my contribution history, shift it under the new account, thus the renaming is needed. Thank you beforehand. --PAJD 11:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
sorry, I did not understand; I thought you could not login as Petrus Adamus. you were renamed ThomasV 14:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

bot deletions limburgish[edit]

Hi. See pls User talk:-jkb-#Li.wikisource. It is a lot of pages - see Category:Limburgish -, could you make it with your bot? Thx, -jkb- 16:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question on DoubleWiki extension[edit]

Hello, I hope I'm not double-spamming you, but I posted a question at and you seem to be the man behind the extension. My question is about including footnotes in pages formatted with DoubleWiki. Thanks! Aldebrn 12:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do not think that footnotes cause any problem. did you encounter one ? ThomasV 13:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I'm Maximillion Pegasus. I was wondering if you could give my bot the sysop and bot flags. It is a general maintenance bot that runs automatically. (the reason it needs +sysop is to delete broken redirects, if you have any concerns with it having +sysop, I assure you that deleting broken redirects will be the only admin actions it will do). I am a sysop on the Simple English Wiktionary. Thanks, and Regards. Maximillion Pegasus 00:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. I suppose your request is not for There are currently 21 broken redirects on this wiki.ThomasV 14:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

At the moment there is no one. There are some "hard redirects" of users to other projects, that's all. -jkb- 14:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BTW, I agree that has an other nature as Wikipedia projects. -jkb- 14:03, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, I see -jkb- took care of all the broken redirects. Could it still have the bot flag though? As it also fixes double redirects. Also, a question: Are interwiki links used in pages here to link to other language versions of a page? If so, the bot can do that also. Maximillion Pegasus 23:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
there are no interlanguage links on this wiki. you should first learn what this wiki is, and how it works, before applying for admin or bot flags. ThomasV 11:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know, that's why I was asking you :) So a bot isn't needed to fix double redirects whenever they come up? I see there usually aren't too many, so it could be done by hand. Maximillion Pegasus 15:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! Thomas, with last update of MediaWiki software a roman numeration feature in <pagelist> was broken. A examples is en:s:Index:Wind in the Willows (1913).djvu at English wikisource and ru:s:Индекс:Lexicon-01 (Pluchart).djvu at Russian. Please fix it. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it is not broken; the syntax has changed (see the mailing list) ThomasV 10:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Where is the mailing list? Give me a link, please. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
here it is : [8] . I fixed the two index you provided.

Thanks. I will translate your anwser to a forum. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are there a up-to-date help page about this extension (e.g. at mw: or meta:)? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

not really, except the above ThomasV 10:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is a pity... But i is a programmer, and i don't like to write user manuals too. ;-)) -- Sergey kudryavtsev 11:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Is it possible to change the default of the Proofread extension, so that instead of showing vertically, it will show horizontally? Just to make life more convenient, and so I don't have to hit the "show horizontally" button for every page I read. V85 11:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes, you can choose to split the page horizontally during edition (like on , if you set the following variable :
var proofreadpage_default_layout='horizontal';

this setting can be activated by single users, or for all users if it set in common.js

Thank you! V85 15:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thanks for updating the main page. Since I am working almost alone on Portuguese Wikisource, I do my best to cover all areas. Manoel FernándezMsg 13:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Pages vues[edit]

Salut Thomas. Je suis en train de regarder les pages des visites mensuelles des wikisources, et je me demande s'il ne reste pas des trucs à éliminer pour que tout soit le plus juste possible. Pour la francophone, entre mai et juillet, on voit que tu as éliminé les "75%.png" (d'ailleurs, il en reste chez les hispanophones). Chez les anglophones, il y a un certain "Special:AutoLogin" qui représente un grand nombre de "hits" ; est-ce que cela ne fausse pas les comptes, comme avant le 75%.png ? Enmerkar 16:40, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

si, SpecialAutologoin a un effet mais on ne peut pas l'éliminer. Ca représente 16% des accès sur, ce n'est donc pas de nature à modifier le classement. Pour ce qui est du 75%.png chez les hispanophones, je te confie une mission sensible : le leur expliquer de façon diplomatique... ThomasV 17:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
à la réflexion, 16% ce n'est pas si petit que ça. les xx%.png représentaient entre 25% et 30% du trafic (cf. février). par contre chez les espagnols c'est minime ThomasV 17:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pourquoi ce "Special:AutoLogin" n'existe-t-il pas sur les autres wikisources, dans les mêmes proportions ? Cela pourrait mettre tout le monde sur le même plan... Est-il absolument insupprimable ou incontournable ? Enmerkar 17:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
les autres domaines l'utilisent, c'est pour ça qu'il a autant de succès. peut-être qu'il y aurait moyen de se servir de celui sur à la place ThomasV 18:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ce que cela m'inspire, c'est que les Wikisources ne sont jamais logées à la même enseigne (certaines ajoutent des milliers d'articles avec un robot, d'autres découpent un bouquin un centaine de pages, d'autres ont un "Special:AutoLogin" qui traîne, d'autres n'ont pas l'espace "Auteur:", etc) ; ce serait trop fatiguant de parlementer avec les administrateurs de chaque pour arriver à établir quelques règles communes... En tous cas, au moins, ça vaudrait le coup de supprimer cet avantage du "Special:AutoLogin". Enmerkar 12:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Salut, Thomas. Entrevois-tu une solution concernant ce problème des Autologin ? Une autre question : la de.wikisource a-t-elle adopté le principe des pages "Sans texte" ? Leur nombre de pages validées me laisse rêveur... Enmerkar 12:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

pour l'autologin, je ne sais pas. a adopté deux principes : scans obligatoires, et obligation de finir le travail qu'on a commencé. un contributeur n'a pas le droit de commencer un livre tout seul si personne d'autre ne se déclare prêt à valider les pages. ThomasV 19:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thomas, is a voting about new layout of the main page already finished? The page counting at Template:TopTenCircle is dramatically obsoleted. Could you update a page counting and add a page views statistic? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 09:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I added this link : . indeed the template should be updated. ThomasV 10:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please see Talk:Main_Page#Replace_Polski_with_ar_wikisource --Diaa abdelmoneim 12:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

top ten is based on page views. please see ThomasV 13:10, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, got it...just short of the circle...:)--Diaa abdelmoneim 15:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


There is one single page: I can't edit today, since the djvu-page disappears when I press [edit]. It worked the day before yesterday! Where is the bug? In the djvu or in the software or in my eyes? I havn't found any trouble on any other page I've tried to edit. -- Lavallen 08:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i don't see anything wrong. ThomasV 10:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will check my glasses then! :) I still have problem with that page, but I'm not in a hurry! -- Lavallen 08:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just FYI: I have no problems with the page either. Regards -jkb- 09:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello. I found at oldwikisource forum a link to your MediaWiki:OCR.js. For which scripting systems are suitable this tool? How to enable it on Russian subdomain? What's a software based on? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 22:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it is based on Tesseract, and it runs on the toolserver. Unfortunately it does not have russian support.
however this tool is a bit obsolete now. it would be much better for you to create djvu files with an ocr text layer.
ThomasV 09:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Match and split[edit]

As we are gettng better at havind texts backed up by scans, I was wondering if you could help us set up the "match and split" function on s:no. I have found several texts which could be matched and split, such as s:no:Synnøve Solbakken (I began doing it manually, but it would be easier if it could be automated; that way it could also be done more quickly also for other works). For the time being, we are only two relatively active people on s:no, and I'm not sufficiently confident to put up this feature all by myself. V85 19:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sure, but it will not work with that file because it has no ocr text layer. you first need to add a text layer to the djvu. note that djvus at very often have a text layer ThomasV 20:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
you need to install this script : (globally, or in your preferences)
you also want to give User:ThomasBot the bot flag at
ThomasV 20:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sadly, we have no bureaucrats on no:ws who could hand out bot status. We could try using s:no:Sogor: ein bundel which should be matched to s:no:Per Sivle - Sogor.djvu. (I started doing that job manually, but it got boring.) V85 17:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am trying to split from a "split page" I created in my user name, but I keep getting error messages. What am I doing wrong? V85 22:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have solved the problem. No worries. ;-) I forgot to remove some old text, so the text didn't match the the OCR-layer. V85 12:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Dear ThomasV,

I am contacting you, since you are the only contributor to the file MediaWiki:Modernisation.js (if there are others who are better equipped to answer my queries, please do let me know, and I'll get in touch with them). I would like to start testing how modernisations would work on no: (as a sort of βeta), and for this, I have several questions, which all relate to how this extension could be implemented on no:, concerning som specificities of the Norwegian language: I present them here, hoping that you might have a good solution for solving them, as I have a very limited knowledge of Java.

Norwegian has two orthographies: Bokmål and Nynorsk, for this reason, we have started building two dictionaries: one for Bokmål and one for Nynorsk. The work for Bokmål has advanced much more quickly than for Nynorsk, so this is the one which is most suited for running tests. I imagine a sort of "marker" being put on each page, to indicate to the script which dictionary it should use in order to do the modernisation. (The implication of this is that a text with no such marker, cannot be modernised, which would apply to texts written in non-standard orthographies, which, would require complete dictionaries to be made for each text.) These dictionaries are so far merely drafts, e.g. now they include a list of words needing disambuation at the end. Being able to see how the script functions would allow us to complete the "holes" the dictionaries might have, before launching this feature. (Of course, if the dictionaries should be moved to different titles, or be in a different format, let us know, and we implement those changes.)

Furthermore, the texts which we are working on, mostly date from late 19th, early 20th century, a time period when typography was somewhat different from today, we could therefore like to see some other changes done as well:

Two practices from de: adopted on no:

  • "SperrSchrift", indicated with the template {{sperret}} should be italic.
  • Typewriter text (used for antiqua in fracture-texts), should also be italic.

Some other issues:

  • Most of the texts which we are working on, do not use standardised quotation marks, today «guillemets» are the norm and should be used in all modernisations; i.e. „German“, »Danish«, “American”, and possibly even ”Swedish” (very rare) quotation marks should be replaced by «guillemets». I suppose that here we could use some sort of marker which would indicate how to replace these quotation marks. (Akin to the page-specific spellings used on fr: for words which are ambiguous.)
  • The letter "ö" is in some texts used instead of "ø" and should be replaced accordingly. The exception, of course, is German and Swedish words (primarily names) spelled with "ö". (I assume the most efficient solution here would be that such names are page-specific). This would also mean that words including the letter "ö" not merely have it changed to "ø", but are also modernised as though they were written with the letter "ø". (The letter "ä" is never used instead of "æ"; so far, I have only seen this done in one text. [[[Indeks:Fra Kristiania Bohêmen.djvu]], which, alas, we have yet to complete.])
  • ſ/ß -> s/ss (ß is rare in those texts I have come across, though it does occur, while "sſ" and "ſs" frequently occur.) (for pages / the change ſ->s is already in place.
  • The symbol "ɔ:" (meaning "i.e.") frequently occurs, and should be replaced by the abbreviation "dvs.": Will the colon prevent the javascript from reading and replacing it correctly? Having it replaced by "dvs.:" would be odd.
  • Most of these texts have adopted the German fashion of capitalising all nouns, this practice is today considered obsolete. Is there some way in which this change could be made by the script? I.e. "de-capitalise" all words except for proper nouns. In some cases, this would also apply to ordinary words, e.g. the novella Trofast, where "Trofast" (Faithful) is the name of a dog, and therefore should be treated as a proper noun and not an adjective.

As you see, my request is very comprehensive. This is because all the questions which we so far have come up with to the challenge of modernising texts are presented here, so there shouldn't be any more issues arising immediately, once these have been dealt with.

Sincerely, V85 20:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Little request[edit]

I have a little request for an edit to a MediaWiki .js file here. - εΔω 15:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

One more line[edit]

I overlooked that in MediaWiki:IndexForm.js should be one more localization — in line


(thanks to Aleator). ChVA 19:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC) Thomas, please changeReply[reply]

var m_progress   = pr_msg({ 'en':'Progress', 'fr':'Avancement' })


var m_progress   = pr_msg({ 'en':'Progress', 'fr':'Avancement', 'ru':'Состояние' })

in MediaWiki:IndexForm.js ChVA 17:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Drop-down list for Progress dosn't work[edit]

Thomas, I think i did all that is needed but still there is no drop-down list for Progress field in Index pages in russian Wikisource. What should I do for it?

P.S. Example ChVA 19:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sorry, I need to modify my script. ThomasV 20:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thomas, are where any news with your script? ChVA 09:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Please see Wikisource:Scriptorium#User:OwtbBot (and the link to my talk page), thanks, -jkb- 22:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello. I want to usurp local name FIL. This account has 0 edits and I have above 800 in my home wiki ruwiki. -- 07:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how to translate the Proofread messages to Breton (br)[edit]

According to Vigneron, you know how to do it. At least the following are missing:

  • Without text: Hep ger ebet
  • Problematic: Kudennoù enni
  • Not proofread: Nann-adlennet
  • Proofread: Adlennet
  • Validated: Kadarnaet
  • This page does not need to be proofread: N’eus ket ezhomm adlenn ar bajenn-mañ
  • There was a problem when proofreading this page: Ur gudenn ez eus bet oc’h adlenn ar bajenn-mañ
  • This page has not been proofread: N'eo ket bet adlennet ar bajenn-mañ
  • This page has been proofread: Adlennet eo bet ar bajenn-mañ
  • This page has been validated: Kadarnaet eo bet ar bajenn-mañ

Also, editing this page, I see an incorrect message: Editing is translated by "Oc'h kemmañ". The best solution would be to use the same message as in the Breton Wikipedia: "Oc’h aozañ".

Thanks, Kouign-amann 11:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

les noms des catégories, ainsi que les messages qui accompagnent les indicateurs de qualité des pages, ne peuvent pas être localisés; il faudrait pour cela créer un sous-domaine en breton.
ThomasV 11:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
D'accord, on y compte bien :-) Kouign-amann 11:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
L'ensemble (ou la majorité) des phrases que tu as cité ont probablement été traduites sur En effet moi-même et un autre utilisateur (Fulup) nous nous occupons de traduire l'ensemble des messages. Sur ma page d'utilisateur tu trouvera des liens vers les statistiques des traductions. Nous avons traduit une bonne partie de ce qui nous est demandé (et les éléments de bases), mais à deux il est vrai que ça demande beaucoup de temps et parfois un vocabulaire qui n'est pas évident.
Et comme le dit ThomasV, les traductions ne serons visibles en breton que dans un sous-domaine breton (et donc un interface comme pour wikipedia en breton). A-benn nebeut ? ;-)--Y-M D 11:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problème avec l'affichage en mode page[edit]


Peux-tu regarder ce qui se passe, par exemple, sur Ar rannoù ? Il y a des liens rouges vers Page:Ar rannoù. Je ne sais pas exactement si c'est un bug ou si on est censé créer cette page (et y mettre quoi ?). Bizarrement, d'après Vigneron, ces liens n'apparaissent pas avec Internet Explorer.

D'autre part, quand on édite une page dans l'espace Index:, le formulaire donne beaucoup moins de champs que celui de la Wikisource en français. Par exemple, on n'a pas de champ pour le traducteur, le sommaire, etc. Est-ce un problème de version du logiciel ? Kouign-amann 14:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

je suppose que les liens en rouge viennent de iwpage.
pour les champs, c'est une question de configuration : un admin doit mettre à jour MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_attributes et MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_template. Je n'ai pas trop le temps de m'en occuper, mais si tu ne trouve personne je peux supprimer la protection de ces pages.
ThomasV 17:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

problem with proofread[edit]

Hi, what's happened recently to the proofread system? I see some new fields like Scans and Progress, but they seem not be working properly... See Index:Le Rime Veneziane e Il Minuetto.djvu, it asks me for a {{Source}} parameter that I cannot find anymore... And what are the possible values for Progress? I cannot figure that out... Candalua 08:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Zyephyrus modified the configuration recently : he added those fields ThomasV 08:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I wrote him suggesting changes, if you read this before him, can you apply them yourself? thank you, ciao Candalua 10:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re. Nemo 17:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Thomas, I've recently discovered the Wikisource:DoubleWiki Extension. A useful tool indeed, but scrolling down the page, the two columns often tend to go out of alignment, due to different page formats and different text length. And I wondered: why there aren't two separate scrollbars, one for each column? That would let the user adjust the columns as they want, and probably be very easy to implement. By the way, I really can't believe that no one in four years ever thought about that...

P.S. in some pages I see a blank space, see [9]... is there a way to fix it?

Many thanks, Candalua 13:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you allow... Well, the problem the different vertical scrolling has been discussed a long time ago but not solved, I think two scrolling bars would be a very good sollution. -jkb- 14:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It was easy to do it on one page only (like this) but unfortunately I suppose it is more difficult to do it on DoubleWiki. --Zyephyrus 22:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Looks fine. -jkb- 23:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SUL request for FIL[edit]

Hello! Could you please rename this account to FIL? I have made more than 2000 edits in ruwiki and local account FIL has made zero edits.--Rusikk 17:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

done ThomasV 19:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! --FIL 04:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DoubleWiki and right to left languages[edit]

Hi Thomas, I've also discovered your Wikisource:DoubleWiki Extension and found it useful. However, I notice that it will take RTL language pages, like Hebrew in my case, and display them with left or center alignment. Is there any tag to force the matched page's alignment in a certain direction? I have looked at the historical discussions of this extension, but have not seen this particular question brought up. Thanks Shemindex 02:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

example, please ThomasV 05:25, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for getting back. Sorry for the delay. Here is the page in question: . Once again, I have to say this is a really good extension. Shemindex 15:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suppose the easiest way to ask this question is "Can the text alignment of the matching text (on the right side) be adjusted in any way (left, right, or center)? Thanks for any help you can provide.
I see on Wikimedia that you updated the code to include "*new tag hook where users provide text alignment information". I'm not sure if that would help with my question, but it sounds promising.
Shemindex 16:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
yes, I completely rewrote this extension. It will work differently.
However, concerning your problem, I do not know where the wrong alignment comes from. Are there other cases where it gets left-aligned ?
ThomasV 21:08, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Near as I can tell, by looking at the html of the rendered matching page above, Doublewiki is adding a center tag to each snippet of Hebrew text. It might be picking it up from the Hebrew side, which has a centered section on top that is not enclosed in its own div section, so that the Doublewiki code might think that the center tag is somehow supposed to be duplicated in each Hebrew text snippet. At least, that's what I think.
By experimenting with different kinds of English pages (with headers, without headers, with right alignment, etc...), I have noticed that the default Hebrew matching view on Doublewiki will usually be left aligned text, which unfortunately is the wrong way. Even though the html code correctly identifies the snippets as Hebrew, it treats them as Hebrew in an English document (left aligned) instead of Hebrew in a Hebrew document (right aligned). (Due the strange addition of the center tag, at least the page I had pointed to is centered, which is more readable than the default left alignment.) How has the operation of the extension changed after the rewrite? Thanks, Shemindex 20:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
the future version will work as described here :
the center tag is indeed probably replicated from somewhere in the page
ThomasV 14:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]



I was woundering: is there any reason for using text=text="ET" at MediaWiki:Modernisation.js? Shouldn't it be text=text+"ET" (sorry if this is a newbie question)

By the way, if I load a page and then change to other tab I get the following error from MediaWiki:InterWikiTransclusion.js at FireBug:

get_elements_by_classname is not defined
 36 var l = get_elements_by_classname( 'iwtrans', 'span' ) ;

Helder 02:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

1 : you were right. fixed, thanks
2 : does it happen on a particular page, or on any page ? I cannot reproduce it

ThomasV 21:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It seems to be fixed since this edit (I think). Helder 17:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Improving Modernisation.js[edit]


I was wondering if you could make some changes to the current code of MediaWiki:Modernisation.js, so that we can use different alphabets and variants of a language?

For example, adding something like this:

var ws_alphabet = {
var dictionary_page = {

and than change this line:

 list = reg_split(text,/([^a-zçâàäāãéèêẽëîïôöōõûùüÿœæA-ZÀÂÄÉÈÊËÎÏÔÖÙÛÜŸÇŒÆ&ß]+)/);

to something like

 var user_lang = false;
 var lang = user_lang? wgUserLanguage : wgContentLanguage;
 re_alphabet = RegExp("([^" + ws_alphabet[lang] + "]+)", "");
 list = reg_split(text, re_alphabet);

and also this line

   url = '';

to something like this

   url = wgServer + '/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=revisions&titles=' + dictionary_page[lang] + '&rvprop=content&callback=do_mod_callback';

so that both "pt" and "pt-br" could be used at pt.wikisoure, and each one could have a different dictionary.

After that, I'll probably convert my current tables (1, 2...) to the appropriate sintax in order to try this this amazing feature.

PS: You may be interested to know about this talk on the use of LanguageConverter class for modernization directly in MediaWiki. Have a good week! =) Helder 03:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

sorry for the delay ; I will have a look next week ThomasV 05:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem ;)
In the meanwhile I've adaptated the script to test it also for conversion between variants of Portuguese used in Portugal and Brazil. The updates include drafts of:
  • A menu for selection of language variants in the top of page, as in Image:Menu para modernização.png, with flags added by css. This is useful for wikis in which it is used more than one only variant (usually for different countries);
  • A parameter "variant" which can be added to the url of a page to convert it.
  • A spinner (badly positioned for while =) ) shown during the conversion;
  • A fix for a bug which was happening when a page have words which are function names in javascript (like "sort", "pop" and "some");
  • A variable (called "displayChanges" for now) which can be used to display the words which were converter in a page, __like this__, so that we can review what is being converted.
  • A table "ws_typo" for defining typographic conversions in each (content) language;
The tables I've used areário/pt-br andário/pt-br. I've also found tables at no:s:Wikikilden:Ordliste/nb and no:s:Wikikilden:Ordliste/nn.
Probably it would be good idea to use something like commons:MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js/de for localization. Helder 03:08, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
ok, I've added your suggestions. ThomasV 21:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
hmm, sorry, I did not notice that you have written a new version; I tried to test it at but it does not seem to be working [10]. Please let me know when it works. Also, if you are interested in developing this, you could request adminship here.
ThomasV 22:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've made a test. This seems to work.
My previous fix for a bug was fixed again, with tests like "var nw = (w in dict && dict.hasOwnProperty(w))? dict[w]: null;". There is also an nsToConvert{} and id_dic{}, for language specific configurations. In this edit I've tried to expand the current syntax of dictionaries so that when specifying "conversion rules" we have:
  1. word: text, converts word=>text, Word=>Text, WORD=>TEXT (but not wOrD=>tExT). This was already possible;
  2. Word: Text, converts Word=>Text and WORD=>TEXT (but not word=>text neither wOrD=>tExT). This is new, and useful for names of people and places (they don't appear in lowercase);
  3. WORD: TEXT, converts only WORD=>TEXT (not word=>text, Word=>Text and neither wOrD=>tExT). This is new, and useful for acronyms (which appears as uppercase);
  4. wOrD: tExT, converts only wOrD=>tExT (this seems to be rare, but may be useful for names like LaTeX...)
The previous ___underscore trick___ was substituted, and now the script adds a span around each converted word, wich can be stylized using CSS (as I did here). Here is an example. If you remove using var displayChanges = true;, it should use the conventional method (no indication of which words were converted, but may be faster [I don't know yet] than adding all those spans... :-) ).
Best regards, Helder 17:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The code was updated so that it can now convert sequences of more that two words (the maximum number is configurable by max_seq = N). Helder 19:20, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
sorry, I did not have time to catch up with you, but I do not forget, don't worry ThomasV 09:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem. =) Helder 13:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
hello; I tested your script again today at, but it is still not working : it expects a dict in portuguese ! ThomasV 12:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Huumm.. it seems that you have tested it by just importing the portuguese script, without any configuration. Since I'm trying to make it usable in more than one language or wiki, it is currently needed to configure each use case with needed values. I've made a first configuration at (and added the corresponding CSS page), but you may want to change the French texts in variant_names and ws_error, and to choose an year to replace XXXX in the fr-XXXX code (I've used pt-PT-1973 and pt-BR-1990 in Portuguese, because the orthography used in Portugal is from 1973 and in Brazil it is from 1990). Maybe it is better to test it in your personal JS until it is properly configured? I'll try to document all the parameters at Helder 13:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


Please, can you give me the flag? Candalua 10:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you have been appointed. sorry for the delay. ThomasV 21:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! Something is wrong with Proofread statisics. On plwikisource we never had 7346 proofread pages; we have only 1741 pages in this category. Furhtermore, it doesn't add up: 6221 + 14 + 958 + 7346 + 5606 = 20145, whereas under "all pages" we have (correctly) 14539. --Teukros 10:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As of 18/09/2010, the "proofread" column shows the total of pages in categories "proofread" and "validated" ThomasV 20:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Match and split[edit]

Does it work also here on oldwikisource? I've tried it on La polenta but it gives me an error. P.S. We are trying it on it.source and I think we're going to use it a lot in the next future! :-) Thanks a lot for having created this useful tool! Candalua 21:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

probably not ; I will need to adapt it ThomasV 18:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thomas, draw your attention on MediaWiki talk:Base.js. What's wrong? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I answered there ThomasV 18:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Missing characters at Modernisation.js[edit]

As pointed at fr:s:Discussion_Wikisource:Dictionnaire#Correct.3F by VIGNERON, it is necessary to add ĩ and q̃ (Ĩ and Q̃ too?) to the list of characters in the script.

Could you do that when you have the time? Best regards, Helder 01:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I do not have much time to maintain this atm ; why don't you apply for adminship here ? you could take care of this ThomasV 11:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NOEDIT in transcluded pages[edit]

It has since we started transclude pages that the possibility to edit a page by "clicking" on the heading is undesirable. To add the magic word NOEDITSECTION does not help on pages with <pages index=/>.

Now, we maybe have found a solution to that. -- Lavallen 18:38, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would be better to put this in Proofreadpage_header_template. Proofreadpage_pagenum_template will be deprecated in the future, because it interfers with indexing robots (try to use PageNumbers.js instead).
For the page namespace, you can also use CSS : .ns-104 .editsection { visibility:hidden; }
ThomasV 07:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename user accounts[edit]


Could you or some other bureaucrat rename my user account, as requested on Metawiki? Helder 11:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I am no longer a bureaucrat here ; please ask User:Eclecticology ThomasV 12:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thomas, draw your attention on MediaWiki talk:Base.js again. Fix this bug, please. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 09:48, 15 November 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


En fait, je ne supprime que celle dont j’ai remplacé le lien iwpage sur la wikisource francophone. Ton bot saurait-il distinguer les pages à supprimer ? (toutes les pages en Without text sont supprimables dès maintenant notamment). Cdlt, VIGNERON 09:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

non il ne saurait pas distinguer ThomasV 09:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dans ce cas, soit on attend la correction des liens iwpages, soit on les corrigera après. A toi de voir. Cdlt, VIGNERON 09:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
si on attend on risque d'attendre longtemps ; rien n'indique que ce sera fait rapidement, et il n'est pas bon de conserver des doublons ThomasV 10:57, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Effectivement, vas-y. je corrigerais les liens à la main.
Puisque je te tiens, j’ai voulu tenter une catégorisation automatique des modèles iwpage : s:br:patrom:iwpage mais cela ne fonctionne visiblement pas. De plus, le cache a beaucoup de retard sur la Wikimmamenn (du coup, les catégorisations sont incomplètes et les couleurs des index faussées), est-ce normal ? (pourtant tout semble bon sur [11] ou [12]) A galon, VIGNERON 11:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

j'ai commencé l'effacement. Est-ce que les noms des catégories de l'espace "Page" sur sontdéfinififs ou bien vont-il encore changer ? ThomasV 13:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok merci.
Euh, je ne suis pas sur de voir de quelles catégories tu parles (celles correspondants aux couleurs ? s:br:Rummad:Hep testenn, Da wiriañ, Reizhet, Gwiriekaet, et Kudennek ; a priori cela ne devrait pas changer mais sans certitudes). Sinon pour iwpage, finalement cela fonctionne (problème de cache ??).
Cdlt, VIGNERON 15:44, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Thomas! I've been trying to install the Modernisation.js script to the Spanish Wikisource, but I can't add the es configuration to MediaWiki:Modernisation.js. Could you do it, please?

In this case, it should be something like this:

var ws_alphabet = {
var dictionary_page = {

Thanks a lot, B1mbo 17:24, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done by Thomas — Phe 11:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi ThomasV, may I add to this line: 'fr':'a-zçâàäāãéèêẽëîïôöōõûùüÿœæA-ZÀÂÄÉÈÊËÎÏÔÖÙÛÜŸÇŒÆ&ßĩq̃ĨQ̃', because modernisation doesn’t work here for "Paẞant arrête-toi "? --Zyephyrus 09:17, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fixed. — Phe 11:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Statistics for ca.source[edit]

Hi, ThomasV. has not counted Catalan new validated/proofreaded pages (zero in the last 3 days, but that's not true: [13]) and total count is also biased. What can it be due to? Perhaps is it related to page ca:s:Pàgina:Buscant lo desconegut (1898).djvu/29 (when I edit it from IE it appears "undefined"). Could you have a look when you hace a minute, please? Thanks. -Aleator 10:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've opened bugzilla:26881 because I see a clear correlation between the modification of the page and the breakdown of the ca.source statistics. I think it's a noinclude tag problem. Regards. -Aleator 12:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Day-to-day statistics work now (but yesterday I saw all domains grew 0 pages). I think ca.source is 200 pages undercounted (perhaps those last 7 days have not been counted). Anyway, it works now :) The bugzilla is still opened. Best regards. -Aleator 18:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problem with Proofread in ru.wikisource[edit]

Thomas, where is strange bug in ru.wikisource. Then I open any Index page (say, s:ru:Индекс:Анна Каренина part 1-4.pdf I can change the "Источник" (source) field and when I save Index everething seems OK. But if I open the Index again, all data in "Источник" (source) disapears and only pdf or djvu text automatically apperars on it. ChVA 16:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename user account[edit]

Hi ThomasV

Could you please rename the account Fredxavier (talkcontribs), as requested in meta-wiki? The user requested the right to vanish, and ask me by mail to do the requests. Here is the confirmation in his home wiki user page. Thank you very much. Beria 10:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

PS.: I send the same message to Eclecticology.

I am no longer a bureaucrat here ; please ask User:Eclecticology ThomasV 12:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hallo ThomasV. Please see Wikisource:Bureaucrats#Yuma_.E2.86.92_Larry_Yuma. The user is requesting at meta a rename, but since this wiki has bureaucrats it's preferred that renames are better done by local bureaucrats rather than by stewards. Best regards, --Dferg@metawiki 23:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am no longer a bureaucrat here ; please ask User:Eclecticology ThomasV 12:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problem with fromsection and tosection[edit]

This feature doesn't work after recent update. See [14] for example (the beginng of the 3d chapter appears now at the end). The whole page is included though tosection parameter is set. ChVA 14:15, 19 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes, see ThomasV 06:22, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
One more problem with <pages> — now it shows real page numbers in Index, not pages set by <pagelist> command. For example, at,_James_(DNB01) page number 131 is shown though it should be 119 ChVA 10:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

please see Wikisource:ProofreadPage ThomasV 11:01, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I see that problem with tosection/fromsection is fixed, but problem with page numbers is not fixed. It isn't described at Wikisource:ProofreadPage. ChVA 05:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OCR does not work anymore[edit]

Hello Thomas, could you please tell us about the chances of Wikisource OCR getting fixed anytime soon? Thanks in advance. --Matthead 17:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bester ThomasV,

wir haben bei Wikisource ein Problem mit dem OCR-Button für Fraktur (vielleicht auch mit beiden), als Ergebnis wird immer "undefined" ausgegeben. Ich bin sehr auf diese Funktion angewiesen und würde mich sehr freuen, wenn Du die OCR-Maschine wieder zum laufen bringen könntest. Viele Grüße von --Konrad Stein 20:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ocr is not working for the moment ; tesseract must be reinstalled at ThomasV 14:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bester Thomas, wirst Du das für uns tun? Ich bitte Dich darum, Dein --Konrad Stein 22:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(If you feel more comfortable, I can try to use my simplified english, also – somehow I remember, your german is pretty good. Yours --Konrad Stein 22:22, 25 February 2011 (UTC))Reply[reply]
no, I will not install Tesseract. First ask a toolserver admin to do this, and then I will fix the ocr gadget ThomasV 09:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]



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