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About long poems[edit]

Hello everyone and happy new year. This is my first time coming to Wikisource. Wanna say, it's really nice here.

If I do edit, I'll be editing Georgian entries/poems, so I have a few questions on formatting and especially on long poems. Right now დავითიანი exists as a page written in Latin script. Itself, it's a long poem consisting of different chapters and one of the chapters is ALREADY separated as another page სწავლა მოსწავლეთა, which I just recently filled. So, uhm, what would be the best:

  1. delete სწავლა მოსწავლეთა and keep დავითიანი to renew it
  2. delete დავითიანი and add all chapters separately.

Another question is, if we choose the second option, should we like create a category called დავითიანი under დავით გურამიშვილის პოემები (poems of davit guramishvili) and have all chapters there?

Thank you in advance :D -Solarkoid (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can see we have a georgian section here, see Category:Georgian. Try to find somebody there and discuss this problem with him/her. If there is something to be deleted so mark the page with {{delete}} + reason, no problem for me or for my colleagues to do so. Cheers -jkb- (talk) 21:57, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Advanced Search "Pages in this language" is not working as described[edit]

Hi, I tried a simple Advanced Search of "automobile" and then selected "English" from the drop down on Pages in this language. But the search results still show source texts in other languages that are not English. I noticed the Info icon next to the Pages in this language that describes how it should work, but it doesn't work as described. --Thadguidry (talk) 20:07, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Thadguidry: This is a great point. There is a problem here with data integrity and I've fixed a few hundred pages but there are tens of thousands left to go. The problem is, if you go to any page (e.g. Page:Ag séideadh agus ag ithe - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/24), you can see page information (in this case: https://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Ag_s%C3%A9ideadh_agus_ag_ithe_-_Ua_Laoghaire.djvu/24&action=info) and one of the pieces of info stored here is the language (in this case, it's correct: "ga - Irish"). So when you are using the search by language feature, the MediaWiki software should only be searching pages that have the correct language. Unfortunately, since the default is English, unless someone deliberately changes a given page's information to another language, then many English-language pages will show up flooding results. E.g. Әкеміз was in "en - English" until just now, when I changed it to "kk - Kazakh". —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
To be more clear, I initiated the Advanced Search from the regular domain Wikisource URL. I did not initiate the search from the English subdomain Wikisource URL. By the way, I keep getting an error when I try to include URL's in my posting and replies here. It keeps saying I'm a new user or something and is treating them as external URL's and SPAM so I cannot give you the URL's I'm using to help. (Help Admin?) --Thadguidry (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
@Thadguidry: Yes, I understood that you were searching this edition of Wikisource and not en:. Unfortunately, admins can't unilaterally make you able to be able to post links (without editing the edit filter itself): you'll have to make [x] edits and be a member here for [y] days in order for that restriction to be lifted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:46, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
So what are your next steps to resolve the search filtering problem? Or is this some mass corrections that need to be made to tens of thousands of pages and is really the only proper way to fix it? I.E. is it simply a problem because some users made pages in some wrong language category? --Thadguidry (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Mass corrections. The problem is that persons made pages not in the wrong language as such but that the new pages weren't marked with a language and that default is English. Search in a non-English language and you are liable to get better results but they will be incomplete and missing all of the pages that aren't properly marked. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-02[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can choose to be reminded when you have not added an edit summary. This can be done in your preferences. This could conflict with the CAPTCHA. This has now been fixed. [1]
  • You can link to specific log entries. You can get these links for example by clicking the timestamps in the log. Until now, such links to private log entries showed no entry even if you had permission to view private log entries. The links now show the entry. [2]
  • Admins can use the abuse filter tool to automatically prevent bad edits. Three changes happened last week:
    • The filter editing interface now shows syntax errors while you type. This is similar to JavaScript pages. It also shows a warning for regular expressions that match the empty string. New warnings will be added later. [3]
    • Oversighters can now hide multiple filter log entries at once using checkboxes on Special:AbuseLog. This is how the usual revision deletion works. [4]
    • When a filter matches too many actions after it has been changed it is "throttled". The most powerful actions are disabled. This is to avoid many editors getting blocked when an administrator made a mistake. The administrator will now get a notification about this "throttle".
  • Advanced item There is a new tool to build new skins. You can also see existing skins. You can give feedback. [5]
  • Advanced item Bots using the API no longer watch pages automatically based on account preferences. Setting the watchlist to watch will still work. This is to reduce the size of the watchlist data in the database. [6]
  • Advanced item Scribunto's file metadata now includes length. [7]
  • Advanced item CSS and JavaScript code pages now have link anchors to line numbers. You can use wikilinks like w:en:MediaWiki:Common.js#L-50. [8]
  • Recurrent item There was a new version of MediaWiki last week. You can read a detailed log of all 763 changes. Most of them are very small and will not affect you.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 January. It will be on all wikis from 14 January (calendar).

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15:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer[edit]

Can somebody tell me why the MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer (and MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon) do not work? We have both since years. -jkb- (talk) 20:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@-jkb-: Not sure what you mean. When I go to Special:Contributions/-jkb-, I see that footer displayed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I wonder what is wrong. When I see the contribution pages (both registered user and IPs) I don't see it. When I go to other projects (either wikisource or wikipedie) everything is OK. As far as I can see I have no sdcripts here that could influence this... -jkb- (talk) 15:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
@-jkb-: Maybe it's your skin? Shows up fine in Monobook. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
I`m sure not. I use vector since years, and as I said, I have no problems with vector in other projects :-( -jkb- (talk) 17:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-03[edit]

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 January. It will be on all wikis from 21 January (calendar).

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16:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki Wikisource extension installation[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Bug T272163

Hi! The MediaWiki Wikisource extension is installed on all language-based Wikisources but not on old Wikisource. This extension now contains code to link to Wsexport in the MediaWiki navigation sidebar. So, it might make sense to install it here too in order to replace the current wsexport gadget. Is there anyone who has concerns about it? Tpt (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

While silence is approval, I don't like it when no one responds to good faith questions like this. So to chime in: I don't have concerns and I don't see any reason why this edition of Wikisource would be exempt. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Honestly, I have no Idea what the extension could be :-); if people, who can judge it, have no objections, so do I. -jkb- (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
+1 from me. —Sam Wilson 00:46, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
It's now done. Tpt (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Importer ma thèse de doctorat depuis Wikiversité - Import my PhD thesis from Wikiversity[edit]

Hello !

Juste un petit message pour savoir s’il est envisageable d'importer ma thèse de doctorat en provenance de Wikiversité dans le but de la publier sur Wikisource dès qu'elle sera terminée ?

Just a little message to know if it's possible to import my PhD thesis from Wikiversity in order to publish it on Wikisource as soon as it's finished?

Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 09:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lionel Scheepmans: You should ask at s:fr:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Done Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 13:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-04[edit]

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  • Bracket matching will be added to the CodeMirror syntax highlighter on the first wikis. The first wikis are German and Catalan Wikipedia and maybe other Wikimedia wikis. This will happen on 27 January. [12]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 January. It will be on all wikis from 28 January (calendar).

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18:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Share your feedback on the OCR improvements![edit]

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Hello, everyone! We (the team responsible for the Community Wishlist Survey) have just launched the project for OCR improvements! With this project, we aim to improve the experience of using OCR tools on Wikisource. Please refer to our project page, which provides a full summary of the project and the main problem areas that we have identified.

We would then love if you could answer the questions below. Your feedback is incredibly important to us and it will directly impact the choices we make. Thank you in advance, and we look forward to reading your feedback! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event[edit]

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Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Project Grant Open Call[edit]

This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.

For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:

Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!

Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantsTemplate:Atwikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-05[edit]

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  • You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource. [14]
  • Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background. [15][16]
  • Advanced item Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like 1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55 as well as the 1.2.3.4/27 syntax for IP ranges. [17]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • Minerva is the skin Wikimedia wikis use for mobile traffic. When a page is protected and you can't edit it you can normally read the source wikicode. This doesn't work on Minerva on mobile devices. This is being fixed. Some text might overlap. This is because your community needs to update MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext to work on mobile. You can read more. [18][19]
  • Advanced item Cloud VPS and Toolforge will change the IP address they use to contact the wikis. The new IP address will be 185.15.56.1. This will happen on February 8. You can read more.

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22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On WIkidata links[edit]

Heads up that they got delayed but for those who don't know, soon, d: will support linking to this edition of Wikisource. Follow phab:T138332 for more. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

That's good to know. Thanks for keeping us informed :) --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 15:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-06[edit]

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Recent changes

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  • You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis. [21]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones. [22][23]
  • Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [24]
  • Advanced item Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead. [25]

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17:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-07[edit]

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Problems

  • There were problems with recent versions of MediaWiki. Because the updates caused problems the developers rolled back to an earlier version. Some updates and new functions will come later than planned. [26][27]
  • Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [28]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).

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17:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-08[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images. [29]
  • Advanced item The syntax highlighter now works with more languages: Futhark, Graphviz/DOT, CDDL and AMDGPU. [30]

Problems

  • Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly. [31]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 February. It will be on all wikis from 25 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • Advanced item There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.

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00:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata links are here![edit]

Following from #On WIkidata links, it is now possibile to link Wikidata items to pages on this site, finally! Many thanks to the people who made this possible.

Links can be added in the "Multilingual sites" box (not the "Wikisource" box), by typing "s" for "sources" or "m" for "multilingual wikisource" (example).

Previously, we used Template:Interwiki to simulate a link; this template should no longer be used. On pages that use it, we need to add the link on Wikidata and then remove the template, I will start doing it but help is welcome. Candalua (talk) 08:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Actually it looks like no one asked for interlanguage links, so everything works except for interlanguage links, and now the developers ask for community consensus to enable interlanguage links as well. I obviously Symbol support vote.svg Support enabling interlanguage links pointing to other Wikisources (not Wikipediæ, as on other multilingual wikis), and hope that many other people will express their opinion. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support Candalua (talk) 20:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 20:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support yep -jkb- (talk) 21:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

See the new phab T275958 as well - -jkb- (talk) 18:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Two main pages?[edit]

When creating items for main pages, I came across the following pairs:

Maybe they can be merged, maybe not. Jura1 (talk) 10:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I merged them. Each one of the two had one page with more contents as well as more edits, so I made the guess that that would be the best one. The other redirects to it. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 08:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-09[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Wikis using the Growth team tools can now show the name of a newcomer's mentor anywhere through a magic word. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
  • A new version of the VideoCutTool is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.

Problems

  • There was a problem with the job queue. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits. [32]
  • Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari. [33]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 March. It will be on all wikis from 4 March (calendar).

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19:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikifunctions logo contest[edit]

Hello. Please help to choose a design concept for the logo of the new Wikifunctions wiki. Voting starts today and will be open for 2 weeks. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at Meta-Wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

01:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-10[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Section translation now works on Bengali Wikipedia. It helps mobile editors translate sections of articles. It will come to more wikis later. The first focus is active wikis with a smaller number of articles. You can test it and leave feedback.
  • Flagged revisions now give admins the review right. [34]
  • When someone links to a Wikipedia article on Twitter this will now show a preview of the article. [35]

Problems

  • Many graphs have JavaScript errors. Graph editors can check their graphs in their browser's developer console after editing. [36]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 March. It will be on all wikis from 11 March (calendar).
  • The New Discussion tool will soon be a new discussion tools beta feature for on most Wikipedias. The goal is to make it easier to start new discussions. [37]

Future changes

  • There will be a number of changes to make it easier to work with templates. Some will come to the first wikis in March. Other changes will come to the first wikis in June. This is both for those who use templates and those who create or maintain them. You can read more.
  • Reference Previews will become a default feature on some wikis on 17 March. They will share a setting with Page Previews. If you prefer the Reference Tooltips or Navigation-Popups gadget you can keep using them. If so Reference Previews won't be shown. [38][39]
  • New JavaScript-based functions will not work in Internet Explorer 11. This is because Internet Explorer is an old browser that doesn't work with how JavaScript is written today. Everything that works in Internet Explorer 11 today will continue working in Internet Explorer for now. You can read more.

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17:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-11[edit]

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Problems

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 March. It will be on all wikis from 18 March (calendar).

Future changes

  • You can add a newline or carriage return character to a custom signature if you use a template. There is a proposal to not allow them in the future. This is because they can cause formatting problems. [41][42]
  • You will be able to read but not edit 12 wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
  • Advanced item You can use Quarry for SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work from 23 March. There will be a new field to specify the database to connect to. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. PAWS and other ways to do SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas will be affected later. [43]

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23:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Import Fantasia original from enWS[edit]

Hi,

Fantasia original has been determined to be out of scope for English Wikisource since it contains no English text (it is mainly musical notation in LilyPond with some Italian text), but provided I've understood correctly it should be within scope for mulWS. Could someone with +sysop please import it here? --Xover (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, I see no text there at all. Do we allow such musical notations here? Just a question. -jkb- (talk) 13:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
@-jkb-: There is arguably some Italian there (the counter would be that it's strictly speaking musical notation that happens to use terms borrowed from Italian rather than Italian as such). But my assumption was that music-as-a-sort-of-language was within scope for mulWS, cf. Category:Zxx (No linguistic content). --Xover (talk) 08:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Here are musical categories on multi.ws. Does it belong to one of them? --Zyephyrus (talk) 22:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Yep, I know those categories. But: all pages in them are articles (i.e. text articles) about music. The page that should be importet has no text. I'm no musician, but the text are the common "instructions" how the music should be played. No text. If we would agree to import it we should first make an exemption on the page about the scope of this project - in ...This site is a repository of source texts .... Difficult. More oppinions? -jkb- (talk) 22:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
N. B. Well, yes we have such pages in Category:Zxx (No linguistic content), that is right. My question is if it is right. That's all. -jkb- (talk) 22:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
There is some italian instructions not for Italian locutors but for musicians from all languages, so I think these musical notations have their place on multi-ws. Don't you think so? --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Correctly: it is a musical notation with (short) instructions, mostly in italian, but not every time; more over, and this is important for me, it is no text in the meaning of what is the scope of Wikisource. If somebody will to keep such pages he should better apply for a new WMF project for musical notations. My 2 cents. -jkb- (talk) 22:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
And, it is unsourced and unlicensed; by the way, the notation is by José Viñas, a spanish componist, so if, the it could be kept in the es.wikisource as well (I don't think so...). -jkb- (talk) 23:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
FWIW, I agree with -jkb- that the textual content there is negligible. In my opinion, the only sensible thing to do is to treat it as primarily music notation and then ask the question: "Is music notation within scope for mulWS?"

Incidentally, it is definitely out of scope for enWS and the minimum discussion period for the proposed deletion there expired long ago (IOW, it could get deleted there at any time). If there is any reasonable chance it could end up as being determined to be within scope here it would be good to import it temporarily and then rather delete it if it is determined to be outside scope. If it doesn't fit at mulWS there is no other Wikimedia project that will have it. --Xover (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Non-linguistic texts belong here and we already have musical texts. I'll import it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-12[edit]

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Problems

  • You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (calendar).
  • Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis. [44]

Future changes

  • Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain. [45][46]
  • Advanced item Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from wg* to mw.config. wg* will soon no longer work. [47]

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16:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki link to this web site[edit]

Hello, I would like to know what can I use as syntax for a link pointing to this wikisource international project. If I use s: or [[wikisource:]] I iteratively go to a linguistic version... Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 13:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lionel Scheepmans:: Use s:mul:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Perfet @Koavf Thanks ! Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 13:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-13[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. [48]
  • Advanced item IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to irc.wikimedia.org and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams. [49]

Problems

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. [50]
  • Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this. [51][52]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 March. It will be on all wikis from 1 April (calendar).

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17:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-14[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first. [53]

Changes later this week

  • Advanced item The citoid API will use for example 2010-12-XX instead of 2010-12 for dates with a month but no days. This is because 2010-12 could be confused with 2010-2012 instead of December 2010. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format. [54]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 April. It will be on all wikis from 8 April (calendar).

Future changes

  • Advanced item PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.

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19:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct – 2021 consultations[edit]

Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2[edit]

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The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its project page.

Drafting Committee: Call for applications[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.

To apply and learn more about the process, see Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee.

2021 community consultations: Notice and call for volunteers / translators[edit]

From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested key questions. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please contact us in whatever language you are most comfortable.

To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations.

-- Xeno (WMF) (talk) 22:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Invitation to m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations/Discussion[edit]

I am interested in hearing the input of Wikisource users about the application of the Universal Code of Conduct, especially from the perspective of interactions on Wikisource. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 23:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Line numbering coming soon to all wikis[edit]

Example

From April 15, you can enable line numbering in some wikitext editors - for now in the template namespace, coming to more namespaces soon. This will make it easier to detect line breaks and to refer to a particular line in discussions. These numbers will be shown if you enable the syntax highlighting feature (CodeMirror extension), which is supported in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors.

More information can be found on this project page. Everyone is invited to test the feature, and to give feedback on this talk page.

-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 15:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-16[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use Znuny instead of OTRS. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon. [55][56]
  • If you use syntax highlighting, you can see line numbers in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors when editing templates. This is to make it easier to see line breaks or talk about specific lines. Line numbers will soon come to all namespaces. [57][58][59]
  • Advanced item Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks similar to this one. If they look strange they should use mw.loader.using('mediawiki.action.edit.styles') to go back to how they looked before. [60]
  • The latest version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis last week. There was no Tech News issue last week.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • The user group oversight will be renamed suppress. This is for technical reasons. This is the technical name. It doesn't affect what you call the editors with this user right on your wiki. This is planned to happen in two weeks. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.

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16:48, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Suggested Values[edit]

From April 29, it will be possible to suggest values for parameters in templates. Suggested values can be added to TemplateData and will then be shown as a drop-down list in VisualEditor. This allows template users to quickly select an appropriate value. This way, it prevents potential errors and reduces the effort needed to fill the template with values. It will still be possible to fill in values other than the suggested ones.

More information, including the supported parameter types and how to create suggested values: [1] [2]. Everyone is invited to test the feature, and to give feedback on this talk page.

Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 14:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Looking for (ancient) Armenian speakers to help transcribe a text on Wikisource[edit]

Recently the French Wikisource community started to work on the transcription of Grammaire de Denys de Thrace. So far you might wonder what the relation with Armenian speakers? Have a look to the full title instead:

GRAMMAIRE de DENIS DE THRACE, tirée de deux manuscrits arméniens de la bibliothèque du roi. Publiée en Grec, en Arménien et en Français, et précédée de considérations générales sur la formation progressive de la Science glossologique chez les anciens, et de quelques détails historiques sur Denis, sur son ouvrage et sur ses commentateurs ; PAR M. CIRBIED, membre de la société royale des antiquaires de france, professeur d’arménien à la bibliothèque du roi. extrait des mémoires de la dite société.

That's a bombastic title if you want my opinion. 😂 However it gives a good overview of what it contains. Especially, it make transparent that the book includes a huge load of material in Armenian. So the text is basically translation and comments of a text in Armenian, itself a translation of an ancient Greek text - also provided in the book. As the French Wikisource community has limited skills on Armenian, it makes the work of transcription far more complicated. Thus this call.

We are looking for people able to make transcriptions of text in Armenian alphabet. It would be even better if we could find people with ancient Armenian, since it is expectable that the text will likely contain oddity of the past. And if we can find someone who can moreover speak French or English to interact in discussions with the community, it would be perfect. Note that the main requirement is simply being able to read Armenian alphabet and to write it in simple Unicode transcription. In particular, there is no expectation that the potential helpers would make any work on the formatting that often require to deal with locale templates.

Please be bold in spreading the word wherever you think that could reach potentially interested Armenian speakers.

With all my warm love, Psychoslave (talk) 07:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, @Psychoslave: I think, if you really want to find Armenian speakers (either for modern or for ancient Armenian) who might help you and your comrades on this task, then you should also create analogous topic in those Wikimedia projects where to find native Armenian speakers is expected to be more likely than here, that is — on Armenian-language projects. I think, you should consider creating similar topics on those projects:
Good luck, and best regards, Nigmont (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-17[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Templates have parameters that can have specific values. It is possible to suggest values for editors with TemplateData. You can soon see them as a drop-down list in the visual editor. This is to help template users find the right values faster. [61][62][63]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 April. It will be on all wikis from 29 April (calendar).

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21:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Japanese vandalism[edit]

Since about march 2021 tehre are some IPs vandaling this site by creating pages with nonsense and not appropriate content (might be some 200 pages up to now). An overview see User:-jkb-/check. I'm not sure how to proceed this. Global block is a nonsense as it would effect other japanese projects as well. A renge block here et oldwikisource: I'm afraid the range is too big, otherwise as there is a japanese wikisource it wouldn't be such a great problem. Othewise we can block the IPs one by one just like I did up to now. What is your oppinion? -jkb- (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Logo stolen?[edit]

Where ist the Wikisource logo (bottom left) ?? -jkb- (talk) 18:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-18[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • The content translation tool did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug. [64]
  • Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes. [65]

Changes later this week

  • Reference Previews will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using Page Previews if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none. [66][67]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Future changes

  • Advanced item The CSS classes .error, .warning and .success do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css or template styles instead. [68]

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15:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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