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arهذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
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eoJen la centra diskutloko por ĉio, kio rilatas al la Wikisource kiel vikio. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas kaj traduku laŭplaĉe tion, kion aliaj redaktis.
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Happy 2015![edit]

Here's to transcribing I look forward to what new works will be made available to the world this year. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm so happy to feel so many people working together just now in so many ways to help! This library will be a marvel! Thank you all of you, thank you Justin!
If you wish to test our new design for Visual Editor, you can do it here. I love it: so simple, so useful. --Zyephyrus (talk) 23:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks to you guys! Let's go! & have a nice 2015! (-minus 19 days that already passed by due to a mix of laziness to read out of my world and permanent hangover) --C.R. (talk) 21:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I need a help for using ProofreadPage at Korean wikisource[edit]

Hello, there. I need a help for using ProofreadPage at Korean wikisource. I tried to contact local admin. But nobody answered me. At first, please see this page ko:색인:殺人書秘話 박문 제1집, 1938.10, 12-13 (2 pages).pdf, which doesn't work well. I think something is wrong in this. How should do for using ProofreadPage at Korean wikisource? HappyMidnight (talk) 13:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@HappyMidnight: I am trying to help but I have limited skills and don't know Korean. It looks like there is not Title field to enter a name for the work and although I tried to enter pages, it didn't recognize them as well. Do you know of any other indices on ko.ws? You might need to file a bug at phabricator:... —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Update All indices are broken: ko:색인:Hanseong Sunbo 18831031.djvu, ko:색인:읍혈록(泣血錄).pdf, and ko:색인:The passing of Korea.djvu as well. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
@Koavf: Thank you for your attention and efforts to fix it. I would rather ask at phabricator which you referred to. HappyMidnight (talk) 04:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-03[edit]

16:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-04[edit]

18:12, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Upload a DjVu file created of text scans which were made not by me[edit]

Hello!

I have a question: if I upload to the Wikisource a DjVu file, constructed of images, which are originally the scans of some book (which itself is in the public domain) but these scans were made not by me (by some unknown person who posted them in some site in the Web) — is this action OK to Wikisource / Wikimedia copyright policies, or against them?

The book which was scanned — it is, as I said, in the public domain: it was firstly published in the 1901 year in the Russian Empire, and its' author died in the 1903. And, the scans are mere mechanical scans of pages of the book, and they does not appear to contain any artwork of the person who made the scans. --Nigmont (talk) 19:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Nigmont: No one owns the rights to any particular scan of a work: if the book is in the public domain, a digital reproduction of the book is in the public domain. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:58, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --Nigmont (talk) 20:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-05[edit]

16:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-06[edit]

16:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Transclusion problems[edit]

Can somebody help me with problems which I got on transclusion of proofread pages:

I created a page where I transclude all the pages of the book which I proofread before. I desired to got something like in the English Wikisource, for example: en:The_Boy_Land_Boomer/Chapter_1, en:The Lodger/Chapter I.

But really I got: Иоанн-вельденьне Шкайстонь Ёнь-куля/ВО/00, and the problems are:

1. The numbers (link in the square braces) of the transcluded pages are overlapped by the text. In the English Wikisource, the text is displayed with left margin wide enough to contain transcluded pages numbers and make them to be apart from the text.

2. The template Template:nop seemingly does not work as expected: for example, I added it at the end of the first transcluded page, but the desired paragraph is not present in the combined page —- the verse #12 is displayed in the same paragraph as the verse #11.

Is this something wrong that I did while formatting proofread pages and/or transclusion page? Or is this a problem with software installed in this wiki? Or something else? --Nigmont (talk) 20:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Addition: transcluding a portion of a page, as described here: en:Help:Transclusion, also doesn't work — you can see at Иоанн-вельденьне Шкайстонь Ёнь-куля/ВО/01. --Nigmont (talk) 01:09, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I also have the same question! Thanks for pointing this out. --C.R. (talk) 08:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I am very glad to know that my requests became useful not only for me! --Nigmont (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Concerning the last problem (transcluding a portion of the page): I figured out what's the matter: really two different labels were needed on the portioned page, but I had provided only one. Just now I created two section labels on the interjacent page — for chapter 1 and 2, and set the first of them as border in the transclusion page for chapter 1; and transcluding now works well on that point. But the other two problems (links are overlapped, and template "nop" doesn't work) are still remaining. --Nigmont (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nigmont: I have made a few edits
1) added margins for tr. text; on enwiki it is done with styles, here the width of the text is set only if you are using <pages> tag with the attribute header=1
2) besides {{nop}} you need to add extra blank lines
Zdzislaw (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Concerning {{nop}} — I checked and discovered that you are quite right, blank line is needed, I missed this moment.
On the matter of the margins. I consider to try to copy those settings from the enwiki to this wiki: is this possible without special admin (or any other) rights and/or sophisticated efforts? If yes: may be you (or smb. else) point me what settings and wiki-templates should be examined there to be imported here? --Nigmont (talk) 20:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
@Zdzislaw: sorry, I haven't noticed that you had already fixed one of my pages — Иоанн-вельденьне Шкайстонь Ёнь-куля/ВО/00 — and now I see this is displayed well, with margins; and nothing is needed to be imported from enwiki. Now I know what I need to do in order to fix that on any other transclusion pages. Zdzislaw, thank you very much, once again! --Nigmont (talk) 20:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-07[edit]

16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-08[edit]

17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Admin Activity Review[edit]

Per m:Admin activity review, we are subject to stewards' review of inactive admins and bureaucrats whenever they conduct a review. However, we have regularly nominated inactive admins and crats on Wikisource:Administrators and have regularly made meaningful consensus decisions to desysop or decrat inactive users. We have also forborn removal of rights when we have found that a user remained active elsewhere and was available when needed (see Wikisource:Nominations for adminship/Archives#Removals of adminship and Wikisource:Nominations for adminship/Archives#Removals of Bureaucrat rights). Stewards will take no such forbearance. I recommend we adopt the following local admin review process in lieu of global policy:

Users with advanced rights shall be subject to review on wikisource:Administrators whenever the community deems appropriate, commonly when they have zero edits and zero log actions for a period of 12 months or longer. Users who lose their rights due to inactivity are encouraged to reassume their rights whenever they wish, either by talking to a bureaucrat or initiating a new request for rights. Users who do not respond to notice of a review may automatically have their rights removed after 30 days. Activity on other Wikimedia Foundation projects shall be taken into account and the consensus of the community shall be the sole standard and the global policy shall not apply on this project.

The second and third sentences come from the language currently at wikisource:Administrators#Vote for removal of administrator privileges. I'm not stuck on any of that language and would certainly entertain simpler versions but I think we should emphasize 1) simple process, 2) community discretion.--Doug.(talk contribs) 19:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Prior discussions on this topic are here: Wikisource talk:Administrators. We previously talked about six months but that is neither practical (IMNSHO) nor our recent practice, where admins are active elsewhere. It's a fact of life on mul.ws that experienced users here are likely far more active elsewhere.--Doug.(talk contribs) 17:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi Doug. I think it is very difficult to compare Oldwikisource wirh other projects - even those ones of Wikisource. Here there is no community in the normal sense, here small to marginal parts of other communities work, each divided from another. Thus the activity of the admins is very limited - but also from language reasons etc. I am sure I see some more copyright violations very often, but I can use the google translator, and then it is better to do nothing. Or, see Wikisource:Possible copyright violations#Works of Firuza Abdullina and Wikisource:Possible copyright violations#Works by User:CoderSIBot and some IPs. Regards, -jkb- (talk) 23:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
-jkb-, I'm unclear what you are saying. Your comment seems to fit more with what I mention below about patrolled pages than about review of inactive admins. My point is that there is a global policy on inactive admins. It applies to us because we didn't opt out and it could potentially result in the de-sysopping of admins by stewards without our involvement/consent. That may make sense for some tiny backwater xx.ws where all admins may be inactive but we have 17 admins all of whom are active somewhere and we have de-sysopped when someone is truly inactive everywhere. We could simply post to meta that we have a process and not say what it is or refer to the old six months of inactivity rule, but I think this is a good time to update and formalize our policy (but not too formal ;) ).--Doug.(talk contribs) 01:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Another option altogether: Users on mul.ws may be as active or inactive as they wish on this wiki, so long as they remain active on some WMF projects, they may retain all rights on this wiki. In the event of inactivity on all WMF projects, the community will remove privileges in its own good time. ;D Call this "Proposal 2". --Doug.(talk contribs) 02:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling[edit]

We have New Page Patrolling enabled but we don't have an "autopatroller" right so only Admins and bots have autopatrolled edits (and only admins may mark edits as patrolled, which is a lot of work). The vast majority of new pages are therefore not patrolled and never get patrolled making the red exclamation mark or the yellow highlighting superfluous. At the same time, IP edits to existing pages have nothing to make them stand out. That means that "not patrolled" = new page not created by an admin or a bot (24 accounts including some very stale bots), users who generally create relatively few new pages here anyway. Recall also that all new pages are marked with an N.

I suggest we either 1) disable Patrolled Pages altogether or 2) enable recent changes patrolling (as is the case on en.ws and is the original mediawiki default), so that all edits by users without the patrol right are marked as unpatrolled, not just new pages. If we do the latter (or if we do nothing), we should enable the autopatroller right and grant admins the power to grant this right (as on en.ws and many other wikis). Another alternative, used on many wikis, would be to add the patrol right to autoconfirmed users. I think my preference would be to simply disable new page patrolling such that no pages are ever marked with an exclamation mark nor highlighted, particularly considering that many edits are in a language that only a few if any admins can read, there isn't much value to the information that a non-admin made a new page.--Doug.(talk contribs) 19:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC).

See just now above: we do not have users for patrolling; we would need one admin for every language, but also in this case I am not sure if it would work. -jkb- (talk) 23:17, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
I think we're saying the same thing, my proposal is that we disable new page patrolling because it's a meaningless distraction.--Doug.(talk contribs) 14:12, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Yep. It doesn't fit this multilanguage project. -jkb- (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-09[edit]

16:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

[Global proposal] m.Wikisource.org: (all) Edit pages[edit]

MediaWiki mobile

Hi, this message is to let you know that, on domains like en.m.wikipedia.org, unregistered users cannot edit. At the Wikimedia Forum, where global configuration changes are normally discussed, a few dozens users propose to restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites. Please read and comment!

Thanks and sorry for writing in English, Nemo 22:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-10[edit]

16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Inspire Campaign: Improving diversity, improving content[edit]

This March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 31.

All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive, positive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign and help this project better represent the world’s knowledge!

(Sorry for the English - please translate this message!) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-11[edit]

15:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

SUL finalization update[edit]

Hi all, please read this page for important information and an update involving SUL finalization, scheduled to take place in one month. Thanks. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-12[edit]

15:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

A problem with editing proofread pages[edit]

I haven't edited proofread pages for several days. Today I tried to open proofread pages for editing and it seems to me that something is broken: I see that the editing tab (that one which consists of buttons 'B', 'I', hyperlink buttons, links 'Advanced', 'Special characters', 'Help') is displayed twice:

  • first - at the top of the main proofread window (that one which consists of two inner windows: the left window (where roofread text is entered) and the right window (where the image of the page is displayed));
  • and the second (duplicated) tab - just under the first tab - at the top of the inner left window (which is for entering proofread text).

Also the 'Proofread tools' are not available: the link is missing, so the header and footer are unavailable for editing.

I see such behavior in the Firefox (ver. 36.0.1) only. The Google Chrome and the Internet Explorer both evidently do not have this problem.

Also I tried this in the English Wikisource: evidently there is not this problem there, even in the Firefox. --Nigmont (talk) 19:47, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Update: I have tried to switch to Google Chrome temporarily, and discovered that the problem is not bound to any particular browser. It seems that the problem arises when I try to create a new proofread page clicking on a red page link on an index page. For expample - an index: Index:Эрзянь ёвкст (М. Е. Евсевьев, 1928).djvu - try to click any red page link: the page opens having the problem I described above, and I see such behavior not only on Firefox but on Chrome and IE too. Clearing browser cache discards the problem for cases of editing any page which already exists (has been created before), until I try once again to create a new proofread page by clicking a red link on the index page. --Nigmont (talk) 20:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@Nigmont: When I try to create Page:Эрзянь ёвкст (М. Е. Евсевьев, 1928).djvu/8, I have no problem seeing the Proofread tools bar (which has zoom, header/footer, and horizontal/vertical layout). SeaMonkey (similar to Firefox) on Windows. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
@Nigmont: I had the same problem yesterday (08:47, 18 March 2015 CET). Somehow it works now for me (08:49, 19 March 2015). I am using Firefox 36.0.1 for Ubuntu. Give it a try now. Maybe there is a track of this problem somewhere.--C.R. (talk) 07:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
OOPS. I tried the Page:Эрзянь ёвкст (М. Е. Евсевьев, 1928).djvu/8 and the problem still exists (sorry for the false positive)--C.R. (talk) 07:53, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Giving more tries I would say the problem was gone just for some minutes for me (when I wrote the first message)... Now I am not able to find again the Proofread Tools so the problem is still a issue for me. Thanks!. --C.R. (talk) 07:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Just now I have done one more check: I deleted in the Firefox all the cookies, restarted the Firefox and try opening the page Page:Эрзянь ёвкст (М. Е. Евсевьев, 1928).djvu/8. And I didn't have the problem!

But after that I tried another page (that one on which I encountered the problem for the first time): Page:Эрзянь ёвкст (М. Е. Евсевьев, 1928).djvu/37, and the problem appeared again!

@Koavf: can you check that page too (the page # 37 - the red link above)? --Nigmont (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Also for me. --C.R. (talk) 06:31, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Just now I checked this again, and now the problem has disappeared for me too. Maybe some fixes have been applied or admins have been performed some settings (e.g. user Phe did some changes to js files, as seen in 'Recent changes') that eliminated the problem. --Nigmont (talk) 16:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Need help to set right footer style for main namespace works on Te.wikisource[edit]

Te.Wikisource follows the En.wikisource templates and stylesheets except for localisation of frequently used strings. We have been facing problem with footer style (background is white, instead of light green as in English wikisource, example page link). The header background is as per expectation on Te.wikisource. I have synced up all the .css files with En.ws and the problem is not solved. Please help.--Arjunaraoc (talk) 11:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)--Arjunaraoc (talk) 11:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-13[edit]

15:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-14[edit]

15:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)