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Mein Kampf in German[edit]

See Mein Kampf, started today. This problemfull text is in German and doesn't belong here - this is my oppinion. I will suggest to delete it here as "out of scope" - see German Wikisource. -jkb- (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I suggest to stop these contributions untill we clear this problem. The German Wikisource has been informed. -jkb- (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's a very important historical material, but unfortunately it's not allowed to be posted in German Wikisource due to the special German historical background. If you want an English description, I will add it. Wetitpig0 (talk) 15:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid to answer it with "no". If it is an important historical material - that is another question. But first of all it is a very shity and very troubled material. And, as the users on the German Wikisource told you, the text without a solid scientific commentary should not find a place in Wikimedia Foundation projects. But this is only one point: in the Oldwikisource it is out of scope because of the German Wikisource. -jkb- (talk) 15:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
BTW, I don't need any English description as I speak German and I studied the history. Anyway, thanks. -jkb- (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree with the general point and the arguments of -jkb- and I think this work should be deleted. Also I could additionally say that, AFAIK, any material which belongs to any language which has own separate sub-domain of Wikisource, may be posted here, on the multi-lang WS, only in the case when:
that material may not be posted on the own language subdomain because of copyright restrictions of the main country of that language but may be posted here because such copyright restrictions does not exist according to laws of the US.
Any other reason of banning the material on the "national" WS (the German one as in this case) does not fit for transferring of publishing material here instead of the "national" WS, as I think. --Nigmont (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
btw. there still may be some copyright restictions in the US (see Commons:Village pump/Copyright#Mein Kampf) --WikiAnika (talk) 21:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
yepp, thank you; this was another point I wanted to ask in the deWS or deWP. -jkb- (talk) 22:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

According to this website, only the copyright of ENGLISH version was seized. Therefore, the German version is in public domain in the US.Wetitpig0 (talk) 07:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Another website also found that the US government has transferred the copyright to the government of Bavaria.Wetitpig0 (talk) 07:58, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

The Bavarian State is the inheritor of the private person Adolf Hitler (no children to inherit). The Bavarian State is also the instance, that will use any possible legal force against any publication of that book. You believe they won't use the (in this case) more restrictive US copyright law for works published in 1923 and later to hinder anyone to publish it (without solid scientific notations)?
I don't know how to link it correctly, but have a look at the Public Catalog of the United States Copyright Office and search for Mein Kampf / By Adolf Hitler. --> Entire Copyright Document: V1798P254-255 (Houghton Mifflin Company) and Entire Copyright Document: V1786P346-347 (also Houghton Mifflin Company) --WikiAnika (talk) 09:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC) btw. according to "this website" Anne Franks Diary shall be in the PD as well, we all know what happend to the publication of it at nl.ws

Check this first: Wikisource:Possible copyright violations/archives/Mein KampfWetitpig0 (talk) 10:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

whats your point? --WikiAnika (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Only the English Edition is copyrighed, but not the German version.Wetitpig0 (talk) 10:33, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
in the US? Why? --WikiAnika (talk) 11:03, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Wetitpig0, WikiAnika: Main Kampf is still copyrighted in US because of URAA. As it was NOT in Public Domain in Germany on 1.1.1996, it is copyrighted in US 95 years from publication date. So eg. a 1925 edition would be PD in US some day in 2020 (assuming exact publication date is known). It is clear copyright violation till this date. The fact it is PD in Germany is irrelevant for this project. Ankry (talk) 09:11, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
@Wetitpig0: The information in Wikisource:Possible copyright violations/archives/Mein Kampf is outdated as in 2004 we were not aware about URAA. Ankry (talk) 09:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
As stated above the question of copyright or copyvio is pretty secondary here anyway. The main point I made is the language problem - the work is not appropriate here (beside other points like copyright not clear, nazi propaganda etc.). See also my announcement in Wikisource:Proposed deletions#Mein Kampf. Regards, -jkb- (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

deleted, see my deletion notice in proposed deletions. -jkb- (talk) 23:31, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Proofreadpage on the Norwegian Wikisource[edit]

When editing a page in the "Index" namespace on the Norwegian Wikisource, the attributes of s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes don't seem to be used. For example, try to edit s:no:Indeks:Nansen,Fridtjof-Fram over Polhavet I-1942.djvu. In the edit window, only 8 fields are shown, while a lot more are listed in "MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes". Could anyone help us find out why? Kåre-Olav (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Kåre-Olav! MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes and MediaWiki:Proofreadpage js attributes can be deleted, if they exist, because they are substituted by MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config‎. More information in Wikisource:ProofreadPage/Improve_index_pages#Improvement_of_the_index_form. I suggest adding some short help text at "Help" field (e.g. mouse over "?" symbol in "language code" in multilingual Wikisource (e.g.)). Best regards! -Aleator 00:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I have deleted those two pages. Still, the index page form doesn't seem to actually use the attributes which are given on our s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config. As you can see, there are more than 15 attribute names on that page, while only 8 are shown in the index edit form... I tried to copy the one you have on this wiki, but still no changes in the form. Kåre-Olav (talk) 13:20, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Mmm... I better would revert this edit in s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config because it must be coordinated with s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_template, and the first now has new and unpaired items, and the second the desired 18 items that we want to see in the form.
Now, if we try to edit one Index and click on "show changes" button, (without modifying nothing), there will be unwanted (?) changes: this index still turns from 18 items (still not appeareing on the form) to 8 items (still 8 fields in the form). But why we still see e.g. "Merknader" form field??? It has to come from the now deleted and hardcoded s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes. But if s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config exists, and it exists, "Merknader" must not appear. The only explanation I can figure out is that we have to wait for some update or refresh. Let's see again in 24 hours (any other help comments will be welcome). -Aleator 01:45, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
I've reverted that edit. Nothing happened. It seems to me that our wiki is ignoring all pages in the MediaWiki namespace and using a default instead. Look at s:no:MediaWiki:Sidebar. Here we have included a link to our local Scriptorium (Kontoret), but it doesn't show up in the sidebar. What could be causing this? Kåre-Olav (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Kåre-Olav! I opened phab:T142921 because I don't know what is happening; let's wait for the help of the developers. Perhaps it has relation to some bugs (like phab:T126146) which afected some Norwegian wikis because of the no-nb language code confusion. In any case, if other users can have a look that would be great. Best regards! -Aleator 09:05, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Kåre-Olav (talk) 19:04, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
No feedback. Waiting... -Aleator 21:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-33[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-34[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-35[edit]

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RevisionSlider[edit]

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Deceased user[edit]

moved from en:WS:AN by user:billinghurst

Eclecticology, who contributed thousands of edits here as early as 2002, has died; see [37]. This was announced over at w:en:WP:AN, the en:wp administrators' noticeboard. As a very infrequent visitor here, I'm unclear about the relationship between the English Wikisource and the non-language-affiliated version of Wikisource, but https://wikisource.org/wiki/User:Eclecticology was an administrator and bureaucrat over there, so I'd appreciate it if someone here would contact the folks over there. Nyttend (talk) 12:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Sad news :(
I requested removal of his rights per standard procedure. Ankry (talk) 19:30, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Sad news for me as well. Thank you Ankry for your action. -jkb- (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-38[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-39[edit]

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