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Mein Kampf in German[edit]

See Mein Kampf, started today. This problemfull text is in German and doesn't belong here - this is my oppinion. I will suggest to delete it here as "out of scope" - see German Wikisource. -jkb- (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I suggest to stop these contributions untill we clear this problem. The German Wikisource has been informed. -jkb- (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's a very important historical material, but unfortunately it's not allowed to be posted in German Wikisource due to the special German historical background. If you want an English description, I will add it. Wetitpig0 (talk) 15:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm afraid to answer it with "no". If it is an important historical material - that is another question. But first of all it is a very shity and very troubled material. And, as the users on the German Wikisource told you, the text without a solid scientific commentary should not find a place in Wikimedia Foundation projects. But this is only one point: in the Oldwikisource it is out of scope because of the German Wikisource. -jkb- (talk) 15:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
BTW, I don't need any English description as I speak German and I studied the history. Anyway, thanks. -jkb- (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
I agree with the general point and the arguments of -jkb- and I think this work should be deleted. Also I could additionally say that, AFAIK, any material which belongs to any language which has own separate sub-domain of Wikisource, may be posted here, on the multi-lang WS, only in the case when:
that material may not be posted on the own language subdomain because of copyright restrictions of the main country of that language but may be posted here because such copyright restrictions does not exist according to laws of the US.
Any other reason of banning the material on the "national" WS (the German one as in this case) does not fit for transferring of publishing material here instead of the "national" WS, as I think. --Nigmont (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
btw. there still may be some copyright restictions in the US (see Commons:Village pump/Copyright#Mein Kampf) --WikiAnika (talk) 21:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
yepp, thank you; this was another point I wanted to ask in the deWS or deWP. -jkb- (talk) 22:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

According to this website, only the copyright of ENGLISH version was seized. Therefore, the German version is in public domain in the US.Wetitpig0 (talk) 07:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Another website also found that the US government has transferred the copyright to the government of Bavaria.Wetitpig0 (talk) 07:58, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

The Bavarian State is the inheritor of the private person Adolf Hitler (no children to inherit). The Bavarian State is also the instance, that will use any possible legal force against any publication of that book. You believe they won't use the (in this case) more restrictive US copyright law for works published in 1923 and later to hinder anyone to publish it (without solid scientific notations)?
I don't know how to link it correctly, but have a look at the Public Catalog of the United States Copyright Office and search for Mein Kampf / By Adolf Hitler. --> Entire Copyright Document: V1798P254-255 (Houghton Mifflin Company) and Entire Copyright Document: V1786P346-347 (also Houghton Mifflin Company) --WikiAnika (talk) 09:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC) btw. according to "this website" Anne Franks Diary shall be in the PD as well, we all know what happend to the publication of it at nl.ws

Check this first: Wikisource:Possible copyright violations/archives/Mein KampfWetitpig0 (talk) 10:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

whats your point? --WikiAnika (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Only the English Edition is copyrighed, but not the German version.Wetitpig0 (talk) 10:33, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
in the US? Why? --WikiAnika (talk) 11:03, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
@Wetitpig0, WikiAnika: Main Kampf is still copyrighted in US because of URAA. As it was NOT in Public Domain in Germany on 1.1.1996, it is copyrighted in US 95 years from publication date. So eg. a 1925 edition would be PD in US some day in 2020 (assuming exact publication date is known). It is clear copyright violation till this date. The fact it is PD in Germany is irrelevant for this project. Ankry (talk) 09:11, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
@Wetitpig0: The information in Wikisource:Possible copyright violations/archives/Mein Kampf is outdated as in 2004 we were not aware about URAA. Ankry (talk) 09:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
As stated above the question of copyright or copyvio is pretty secondary here anyway. The main point I made is the language problem - the work is not appropriate here (beside other points like copyright not clear, nazi propaganda etc.). See also my announcement in Wikisource:Proposed deletions#Mein Kampf. Regards, -jkb- (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

deleted, see my deletion notice in proposed deletions. -jkb- (talk) 23:31, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Proofreadpage on the Norwegian Wikisource[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Bug T142921

When editing a page in the "Index" namespace on the Norwegian Wikisource, the attributes of s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes don't seem to be used. For example, try to edit s:no:Indeks:Nansen,Fridtjof-Fram over Polhavet I-1942.djvu. In the edit window, only 8 fields are shown, while a lot more are listed in "MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes". Could anyone help us find out why? Kåre-Olav (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Kåre-Olav! MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes and MediaWiki:Proofreadpage js attributes can be deleted, if they exist, because they are substituted by MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config‎. More information in Wikisource:ProofreadPage/Improve_index_pages#Improvement_of_the_index_form. I suggest adding some short help text at "Help" field (e.g. mouse over "?" symbol in "language code" in multilingual Wikisource (e.g.)). Best regards! -Aleator 00:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I have deleted those two pages. Still, the index page form doesn't seem to actually use the attributes which are given on our s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config. As you can see, there are more than 15 attribute names on that page, while only 8 are shown in the index edit form... I tried to copy the one you have on this wiki, but still no changes in the form. Kåre-Olav (talk) 13:20, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Mmm... I better would revert this edit in s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config because it must be coordinated with s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_template, and the first now has new and unpaired items, and the second the desired 18 items that we want to see in the form.
Now, if we try to edit one Index and click on "show changes" button, (without modifying nothing), there will be unwanted (?) changes: this index still turns from 18 items (still not appeareing on the form) to 8 items (still 8 fields in the form). But why we still see e.g. "Merknader" form field??? It has to come from the now deleted and hardcoded s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes. But if s:no:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config exists, and it exists, "Merknader" must not appear. The only explanation I can figure out is that we have to wait for some update or refresh. Let's see again in 24 hours (any other help comments will be welcome). -Aleator 01:45, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
I've reverted that edit. Nothing happened. It seems to me that our wiki is ignoring all pages in the MediaWiki namespace and using a default instead. Look at s:no:MediaWiki:Sidebar. Here we have included a link to our local Scriptorium (Kontoret), but it doesn't show up in the sidebar. What could be causing this? Kåre-Olav (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Kåre-Olav! I opened phab:T142921 because I don't know what is happening; let's wait for the help of the developers. Perhaps it has relation to some bugs (like phab:T126146) which afected some Norwegian wikis because of the no-nb language code confusion. In any case, if other users can have a look that would be great. Best regards! -Aleator 09:05, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Kåre-Olav (talk) 19:04, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
No feedback. Waiting... -Aleator 21:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-33[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Last week Tech News announced you will get a notification when you mention yourself the same way as if someone else had mentioned you. This caused some problems and will happen later instead. [1]
  • Creating and editing links to sections on other pages on the wiki now works again in the visual editor. [2]
  • For some users, cross-wiki notifications haven't been working properly. The count has been wrong when only cross-wiki notifications were present. The cross-wiki bundle has been showing only the names of wikis and not the actual notifications. This will be fixed soon. [3][4]

Changes this week

  • The login session when you choose "Keep me logged in" will now last a year. Previously it was 30 days. This will happen on August 16. [5]
  • Some abuse filters will have to be updated during the week. This is because a bug will be fixed. [6]
  • In compact language links, two new kinds of languages will be shown in the shorter language list: Languages that are used in the article's text, and languages where the article has a badge like "featured article" or "good article". [7][8]
  • The visual editor will be available by default for logged-out editors on Wikipedias that use the Arabic script. It is already default for logged-in editors. [9]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 16. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 17. It will be on all wikis from August 18 (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on August 16 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Starting the week of August 22 there will be three software deployment windows. They will be at 13:00, 18:00, and 23:00 UTC. This is to have more times when software of the wikis can be updated and make it easier for developers in different parts of the world. [10]

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19:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-34[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The ORES review tool is now available on Special:Contributions as a beta feature. It can make it easier to find contributions that are probably damaging the wikis. The ORES review tool is available on Wikidata and Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Dutch, Turkish and Russian Wikipedia. [11]
  • Octicons-tools.svg The norm and ccnorm functions have been updated to make it easier to write abuse filters. This also affects the TitleBlacklist extension. You don't have to transform "I" and "L" to "1", "O" to "0" and "S" to "5" anymore. [12]
  • Octicons-tools.svg The old pageview data in the "pagecounts-raw" and "pagecounts-all-sites" files is no longer being updated. You can find the new pageview data here. This happened on August 5. [13]

Problems

  • Some big image files could not be thumbnailed. This has now been fixed. [14]
  • When you moved a page over a redirect it would delete the redirect without saving it in the logs. This has now been fixed. [15]

Changes this week

  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 August. It will be on all wikis from 25 August (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully sent out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. You can test this on the test wiki. [16][17]
  • How you add text after an edit conflict might work in a different way in the future. You can test the prototype. [18]

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21:18, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-35[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Wikimedia mobile sites now don't load images if the user doesn't see them. This is to save mobile data and make the pages load faster. [19]
  • When you edit a table with the visual editor, pressing Tab in the last cell of a row will take you to the first cell in the next row. Pressing Shift and Tab in the first cell of a row will take you to the last cell in the previous row. [20]

Changes this week

  • The name of the "Save page" button will change. The button will say "Publish page" when you create a new page. It will say "Publish changes" when you change an existing page. [21][22]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 August. It will be on all wikis from 1 September (calendar).

Meetings

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15:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-36[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Word-level diffs now work in longer paragraphs. [23]
  • Interactive maps now have a frame by default. This is to make them look like other multimedia objects. This affects all Wikivoyages, the Catalan, Hebrew, Macedonian Wikipedias and Meta. [24]
  • Octicons-tools.svg When you preview the MediaWiki:Captcha-ip-whitelist page it will show a validation output of the listed IP addresses instead of the list of addresses only. This can help you to identify if your whitelist rules will work or not. [25]

Changes this week

  • You will be able to use <maplink> on all Wikipedias. It creates a link to a full screen map. [26][27]
  • Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully send out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. [28][29]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 September. It will be on all wikis from 8 September (calendar).

Meetings

  • Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

RevisionSlider[edit]

From September 13th on, RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature in your wiki. The RevisionSlider adds a slider view to the diff page, so that you can easily move between revisions. The feature fulfills a wish from the German Community’s Technical Wishlist. Everyone is invited to test the feature and we hope that it will serve you well in your work!

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 15:08, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-37[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The Wikimedia Commons app for Android can now show nearby places that need photos. [31]
  • <maplink> and <mapframe> can now use geodata from Open Street Map if Open Street Map has defined a region and given it an ID in Wikidata. You can use this to draw on the map and add information. [32][33]

Changes this week

  • The RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature on all wikis from 13 September. This will make it easier to navigate between diffs in the page history. [34]
  • Octicons-tools.svg A new user right will allow most users to change the content model of pages. [35][36]
  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 September. It will be on all wikis from 15 September (calendar).

Meetings

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Future changes

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18:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Deceased user[edit]

moved from en:WS:AN by user:billinghurst

Eclecticology, who contributed thousands of edits here as early as 2002, has died; see [37]. This was announced over at w:en:WP:AN, the en:wp administrators' noticeboard. As a very infrequent visitor here, I'm unclear about the relationship between the English Wikisource and the non-language-affiliated version of Wikisource, but https://wikisource.org/wiki/User:Eclecticology was an administrator and bureaucrat over there, so I'd appreciate it if someone here would contact the folks over there. Nyttend (talk) 12:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Sad news :(
I requested removal of his rights per standard procedure. Ankry (talk) 19:30, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Sad news for me as well. Thank you Ankry for your action. -jkb- (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-38[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Changes this week

  • Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Wikidata will start working on adding support for Wiktionary. The Wikidata development team is now taking one last look at the development plan. [40]

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22:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-39[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can request it after a community decision. See how to request it. [41]
  • When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions. [42]
  • Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit. [43]

Problems

Changes this week

  • There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [46]

Meetings

Future changes

  • Octicons-tools.svg Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [47]

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18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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