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ar: هذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
bn: এটি উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যা নিয়ে আলোচনা করার একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
de: Dies ist eine zentrale Stelle, um alle Themen um Wikisource zu diskutieren, und ein Platz, um nach Hilfe zu fragen. Benutzen Sie die Sprache(n), die Sie beherrschen, und übersetzen Sie, was Ihnen gefällt.
diq: No wikiçıme heta merselan war ardış u mınaqeşe kerdış i heta cay peşti waştışiyo.Zıwanê ke şıma zanê ê zımani dı iştıraq bıkerê u açarnayış seni beno bıumısê.
el: Αυτή είναι η κεντρική τοποθεσία για να συζητήσετε θέματα για τη Βικιθήκη, αλλά και το μέρος για να ζητήσετε βοήθεια. Χρησιμοποιήστε τη γλώσσα (ή τις γλώσσες) που γνωρίζετε και μεταφράστε αυτά που θέλετε.
en: This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help. Use the language(s) you know, and translate what you like.
eo: Ĉi tio estas la centra loko por diskuti problemojn pri Vikifontaro, kaj la loko por serĉi helpon. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas, kaj traduku kion vi volas.
es: Este es el lugar central para discutir cualquier asunto de Wikisource y es el lugar para pedir ayuda. Use los idiomas que conozca, y traduzca lo que crea necesario que otros sepan.
fr: Ceci est la page principale pour discuter de ce qui a trait à Wikisource, et pour demander de l’aide. Utilisez la (ou les) langue(s) que vous connaissez, et traduisez ce qui vous plaît.
ga: Seo an lárnionad chun téamaí a bhaineann le Vicífhoinse a phlé, agus an áit inar féidir leat cabhair a iarraidh. Bain usáid as teanga ar bith dá bhfuil agat agus aistrigh cibé rud is mian leat.
gbm: इ च मझळु अड्डा विकीसोतु दगड़ मुद्दा बारा म छुंई लगाणु खुणी, अर ठाणु मदद मंगण खुणी. इस्तेमाल कारा उ भाखा ज्व तुमु बिंगुदौ, अर बदलाखरा जू च पसंद​।
he: זה הדף המיועד לדיונים העוסקים בויקיטקסט, והמקום לפנות לעזרה. השתמשו בשפות שאתם מכירים, ותרגמו את מה שאתם רוצים.
hr: Ovo je središnje mjesto za raspravljanje o temama u svezi s Wikizvorom, kao i mjesto za pitati za pomoć. Rabite jezik(e) koje znate, te prevodite što želite.
hy: Սա Վիքիդարանի հետ կապված հարցերի քննարկման կենտրոնական վայրն է, որտեղ դուք կարող եք նաև դիմել հարցերով։ Օգտագործեք ձեր իմացած լեզուն(երը) և թարգմանե՛ք ի՜նչ կամենում եք։
io: Ita esas la centrala loko por diskutar problemi pri Wikifonto, e la loko por serchar helpo. Uzez la linguo/i quan vu parolas, e tradukar quon/in vu volas.
it: Questo è il luogo principale dove discutere di Wikisource, e il posto dove chiedere aiuto.Scrivi nella lingua che vuoi, puoi anche tradurre quello che vuoi.
ja: ここはプロジェクトについて議論したり、質問がある時に尋ねたりするための場所です。お望みの言語を使って書き込んで下さい。他の人の書き込みを翻訳して下さる方も歓迎です。
ko: 이곳은 주로 위키문헌과 관련된 문제들에 관한 논의를 하는 곳이며 도움을 구할 수 있는 곳입니다. 당신이 구사할 수 있는 언어를 사용해서 마음껏 번역해 주시길 바랍니다.
nb: Dette er det sentrale stedet å diskutere saker som angår Wikisource, og stedet for å be om hjelp. Bruk de språka du kan, og oversett det du vil.
nl: Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
nn: Dette er den sentrale staden å diskutere saker som gjeld Wikisource, og staden for å be om hjelp. Bruk dei språka du kan, og set om det du vil.
pl: To główne miejsce dyskusji o sprawach związanych z Wikiźródłami i miejsce uzyskiwania pomocy. Używaj języków, które znasz i tłumacz co i kiedy chcesz.
pt: Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
ro: Acesta este locul central de discutare a problemelor legate de Wikisursă și locul unde se poate solicita ajutor. Folosiți limbile pe care le stăpâniți, și când doriți, traduceți ceea ce vă place
ru: Это центральное место для обсуждений, связанных с Викитекой в целом, а также место, где можно спросить о помощи. Используйте язык, который вы знаете и переводите что и когда вам нравится.
su: Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv: Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
tl: Ito ang sentrong lokasyon para pag-usupan ang mga isyu kasama ng Wikisource, at ang lugar upang humingi ng tulong. Gamitin ang (mga) wika na alam mo, at isalin ang anong gusto mo.
uk: Це центральне місце для обговорень, пов'язаних з Вікіджерелами в цілому, а також місце, де можна попросити про допомогу. Використовуйте мову, яку ви знаєте і перекладайте те, що вам подобається.
vi: Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
yue: 呢度係主要討論維基文庫相關問題嘅版面。你可以用你識得嘅語言留言，亦都可以幫手翻譯其他人嘅留言。
zh-hant: 這裡是討論與維基文庫有關話題和尋求幫助的頁面。使用您所了解的語言留言。您也可以在任何時候把他人的留言翻譯成您熟悉的語言。
zh-hans: 这里是讨论与维基文库有关话题和寻求帮助的页面。使用您所了解的语言留言。您也可以在任何时候把他人的留言翻译成您熟悉的语言。
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Tech News: 2020-38[edit]

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Problems

  • The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours. [1][2]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September (calendar).

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16:19, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is a new tag for reverted edits. For example you can see it in the recent changes feed or in the article history. It is added to edits when they have been undone, rollbacked or manually reverted to an older version of the page. [3][4]

Changes later this week

  • The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [5]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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21:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-40[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [6]
  • Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [7]

Problems

  • Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [8]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
  • The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
  • In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see Apps as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021. [9]
  • You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
  • You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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21:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest[edit]

Please help translate to your language.

Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Wikimedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki where the community can work together on a library of functions. The community can create new functions, read about them, discuss them, and share them. Some of these functions will be used to help create language-independent Wikipedia articles that can be displayed in any language, as part of the Abstract Wikipedia project. But functions will also be usable in many other situations.

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with voting beginning on 29 September and 27 October. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on 8 December. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

21:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-41[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
  • You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [10]

Problems

  • There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [11]
  • Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [12]
  • Advanced item Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
  • Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [13]

Future changes

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16:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric[edit]

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language.

Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.

Thank you! Qgil-WMF (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-42[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [15][16][17]

Changes later this week

  • Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [18][19]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes

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15:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add language template to main page template[edit]

Hello. I discovered that the letters on the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' did not have language codes. So I tried to add the 'Lang template' ({{Lang}}) to that template page, but I couldn't do it because the page was protected. So I want someone to add the template to 'Template:TopTenCircle' (For example: Special:Diff/850216 <User:TKsdik8900/sandbox 04:07, 18 October 2020‎>). In summary, I want to see the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' content replaced by Special:Diff/850216. I also used machine translation, so I'm sorry if there is any confusion in this text. Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 04:43, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

ar and he were a huge pain but otherwise done. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-43[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [21]
  • Advanced item In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [22]
  • Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Important: maintenance operation on October 27[edit]

Read this message in another language • Please help translate to your language

The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, October 27 2020.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, October 27. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (14:00 WET, 15:00 CET, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 03:00 NZDT on Wednesday October 28).
  • If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
  • There will be code freezes for the week of October 26, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

-- Trizek (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-44[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [23]
  • Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [24]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [25]
  • There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "Reverted" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [26]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [27]

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17:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of an old logo image[edit]

File:Stw-wslogo2.png was uploaded in 2006, apparently as part of a contest, and Yann (talk • contribs) deleted it afterwards. Apparently someone else remixed it and made File:Contactus-wmcolors.png, which has been somewhat widely used since then. The deleted file would arguably be a part of the other file's history, and perhaps of the history of the project, that we would like to maintain. Administrators: can you please undelete it? Even better, can you import it to Commons with its file history?

Here are some more details. Judging by an edit summary given by Eloquence (talk • contribs), it looks like the file is currently used as part of File:Contactus-wmcolors.png (a file with 100+ usages) - it would be nice if the original file with its history remains available. It seems that the creator was Stw (talk • contribs) and the work was made public domain. [28] Whym (talk) 08:34, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Good eye. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:51, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-45[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [29]
  • Advanced item There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [30]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
  • Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [31]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [32]

Future changes

  • A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [33]
  • In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2[edit]

Hello. Reminder: Please help to choose the name for the new Wikimedia wiki project - the library of functions. The finalist vote starts today. The finalists for the name are: Wikicode, Wikicodex, Wikifunctions, Wikifusion, Wikilambda, Wikimedia Functions. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at Meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

22:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for an interface admin to edit MediaWiki:OCR.js[edit]

(Follow-up of December 2019 topic)

Hi!

Since OCR bug has evolved positively thanks to Xover, can an interface admin edit related gadget in order to allow using new OCR when it works (and still fallback to old one in other cases), please? Needed changes are on my sandbox. --Pols12 (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pols12: If your sandbox can just include only the exact text of the gadget and nothing else, then I will port it over. Please ping me when you've done this. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Actually it does, Koavf. 🙂 --Pols12 (talk) 03:22, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

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  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [34]
  • From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [35][36]

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15:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Update to ICU Unicode library[edit]

Starting on November 16, we will migrate the servers running the MediaWiki application servers to a new release of the ICU Unicode library (w:International Components for Unicode) (from version 57 to 63).

This unblocks some future work on upgrading the servers to a new Operating System release and will also allow the use of improved internationalisation in the future (as wikis will then be able to use features introduced by the new ICU release such as new collation definitions, and allows us to use a more recent version of Unicode in MediaWiki).

This migration will cause some unavoidable temporary user-visible impact: The sorting of some category pages will be distorted – all pages which have been updated with the new software version will use the new sorting while untouched pages still use the old sorting. As such, we need to run a maintenance script to update the sorting for old entries.

The distortions may last from a few hours (on medium-sized wikis), up to a day (on the largest wikis), and a few days on English Wikipedia. The start-time will depend upon when the migration script reaches each wiki.

This affects 149 wikis (including eight out of the ten biggest Wikipedias). The detailed list and the task for the technical implementation is at T264991.

Thank you.

Trizek (WMF) 14:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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  • Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [37][38]

Changes later this week

  • If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [39]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

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  • The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021[edit]

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The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 November, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 December and 21 December.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 05:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Needless deletion of empty categories[edit]

I have noticed that administrator User:Koavf deleted in the past some "public domain" categories with comment "empty cat.", for example: "11:59, 25 July 2020 Koavf talk contribs deleted page Category:PD-anon-75-1996 (empty cat.)". I think that it is a bad idea — to speedy delete good (not vandal) categories having the only reason that the category is empty. The fact that a category is empty does not mean that the category is not needed any longer: the category may be empty now, but it may become not empty in the future, so there may be no sense in deleting it for now. For example, the category cited above — Category:PD-anon-75-1996 — has become needed again. It should be noticed, that the English Wikisource has not such a reason for speedy deletion as that "the category is empty" — see en:Wikisource:Deletion policy, section Speedy deletion; and in fact, they do not delete empty PD categories — see en:Category:Works by license, for example — categories "PD-old-60-1996" and "Image-PD-old-75".

So I ask: To undelete this (PD-anon-75-1996) and other PD categories. Here is the list (may be not full — maybe I missed something) of PD-categories deleted by Koavf, which must be restored, in my opinion:

Also I propose to the community (especially to admins) — do not speedy delete (or do not request speedy deletion) good categories only by the reason that the category is empty. Instead of that, if you think that the category is not needed any longer on Wikisource — nominate it on the Wikisource:Proposed deletions first and proceed usual deletion discussion. And I specifically point out, that I propose this not only for "public domain" categories but also all others — I think all categories should pass through normal discussion and only after that may be deleted. Reasonable exceptions may be, of course, but as a general rule — it should be accepted that a discussion is required before deletion of empty categories. --Nigmont (talk) 20:17, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

It's easy to ask for undeletion or to just recreate the category yourself: nothing was stopping you from doing that. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
The fact that some action may be easily corrected by some other action — it cannot justify that the first, initial action was good and must not be frowned on. Each sort of vandalism (except, may be, administrative vandalism) may be easily reverted, but it's cannot serve a reason to say that a vandalism should be forgiven and tolerated, and that vandalism is a nice thing. I don't want to say that needless deletion of categories is a some kind of vandalism, but nevertheless, needless deletion of categories also belongs to area of wrong-doing (to which vandalism also belongs to), and to some sort of abuse of admin's privileges; and it at least must be considered as a mistake, if nothing more. --Nigmont (talk) 21:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
There are an infinite amount of categories that we could have that could be useful about Dinka poetry or 2054 works etc. That's no justification for having a raft of empty categories. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:37, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I didn't say about "having a raft of empty categories". I just said that you should not delete categories by your personal judgement only, but instead of that — you should deliver decision to all the community (by putting on Wikisource:Proposed deletions), and let them to decide — whether category is really not needed. Please notice, that other admins do not behave like you. It seems to me that you pose yourselves to be smarter than all other users here (including admins) put together, but it does not seem to be true that you are smarter than all others, considering your past mistakes in this year, alike — futile categorizing of languages which disturbed other users, and inept importing of author's template and involved items, after which action the normal work of wikidata for author's page was broken. So I propose you to put away your self-overestimation and be wise, and don't delete categories by personal judgement only. Those categories didn't bothered all other admins, and they didn't touch them; do you really think that they are just fools here, and only you occured to be enough intelligent to make proper decisions on those categories, without discussion? --Nigmont (talk) 22:07, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
In addition: "to just recreate the category yourself" — to do this way is wrong, because after this action the history of category is lost (at least, it is not seen for non-admins). The history of categories (the same as for other pages) is important, isn't it?
"There are an infinite amount of categories that we could have that could be useful about Dinka poetry or 2054 works etc." — There are different kinds of probability of when and where some category may be used in the future. You proposed examples of categories which currently are useless (and were useless in the past), but for some other categories there is quite other probability of existence. For PD-categories — even if they were empty now then they were used in the past, and most likely will be used in the future, so to delete them is an unreasоnаble and futile action. For example, Category:PD-old-99-1923 is currently filled and needed. In the next year (2021) it will become empty, and you will delete it? And in 2023 year — it will be needed again... Why to delete and then recreate such categories? Why not just to leave them to remain? --Nigmont (talk) 22:51, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I deleted an empty category. Please dial down all your nonsense and accusations. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
We should better specify which empty categories to be speedily deleted, to be deleted with discussions, or to be kept even when empty.--Jusjih (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-48[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Timestamps in Special:Log are now links. They go to Special:Log for only that entry. This is how timestamps work on for example the history page. [40]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Advanced item The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from 1 December. Unclaimed projects can be deleted from 1 January. [41]

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17:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

link to en"Translation: space doesn't work[edit]

I noticed a broken link at Wikisource:The_Open_Mishnah_Project. The old link was [[en:Mishnah | Mishnah]] (which also doesn't work. However that page was moved to a new Translation namespace [[en:Translation:Mishnah]] and that doesn't work either. Any en: link from \wikisource.org seems to not work Nissimnanach (talk) 01:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Disregard, my error, I ought to use [[:en:Mishnah | Mishnah]] etc Nissimnanach (talk) 01:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Wikidata descriptions changes to be included more often in Recent Changes and Watchlist[edit]

Sorry for sending this message in English. Translations are available on this page. Feel free to translate it in more languages!

As you may know, you can include changes coming from Wikidata in your Watchlist and Recent Changes (in your preferences). Until now, this feature didn’t always include changes made on Wikidata descriptions due to the way Wikidata tracks the data used in a given article.

Starting on December 3rd, the Watchlist and Recent Changes will include changes on the descriptions of Wikidata Items that are used in the pages that you watch. This will only include descriptions in the language of your wiki to make sure that you’re only seeing changes that are relevant to your wiki.

This improvement was requested by many users from different projects. We hope that it can help you monitor the changes on Wikidata descriptions that affect your wiki and participate in the effort of improving the data quality on Wikidata for all Wikimedia wikis and beyond.

Note: if you didn’t use the Wikidata watchlist integration feature for a long time, feel free to give it another chance! The feature has been improved since the beginning and the content it displays is more precise and useful than at the beginning of the feature in 2015.

If you encounter any issue or want to provide feedback, feel free to use this Phabricator ticket. Thanks!

Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 14:39, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 December. It will be on all wikis from 3 December (calendar).

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  • The iOS Wikipedia app will show readers more of the article history. They can see new updates and easier see how the article has changed over time. This is an experiment. It will first be shown only to some iOS app users as a test. [42][43]
  • Advanced item The Wiki Replicas can be used for SQL queries. You can use Quarry, PAWS or other ways to do this. To make the Wiki Replicas stable there will be two changes. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work. You can also only query a database if you connect to it directly. This will happen in February 2021. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. [44]

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17:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Feedback requested on November update for Wikisource ebook export project[edit]

Hello, everyone! We are requesting your feedback on the recently posted November update for the Wikisource ebook export improvement project. Your feedback is very important to us. We want to know what you think of some work we have recently completed to improve the reliability of WS-Export and font support in various languages. Additionally, we want to know what you think of our proposed mockups to improve the download user experience. In that case, please do check out the updates, if you can, and share your feedback on the project talk page. Thank you! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 18:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

The unknowable (because little described?)[edit]

It amazes me how often I'll come across something which is "just known" by 'everyone', yet is nowhere made apparent. If you weren't here back then, if you haven't been following along, well, why should we tell you?

Here, it is the term/idea of "Multilingual Wikisource". Wait you say, you're here! Really? What tells me so? Naught on the main page. Nothing immediately shows up elsewhere about policy of what is this "wikisource.org" site. Isn't it just a portal to the other real wikisources? What is this place? What is this place for?

I realize now that an index I was looking at makes perfect sense for one meaning of multilingual - it is a book in one language describing/teaching another language. But it was just that question, why is the index here that made me look for information and yet come up basically empty-handed.

I think I now understand that there has been a substantial long-term evolution from wikisource.org being one catch-all bucket to lots and lots of single language Wikisources, with some of those grabbing most of the energy at Wikisource. With "wikisource.org" left as... just what isn't predominantly single language?

Is there a reason there is no description of Wikisource.org itself and what it is for? It seems as though the process of organization of everywhere else has left no energy for organizing here. Shenme (talk) 06:58, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@Shenme: Indeed, this is the original Wikisource and was intended to be for source texts in all languages. But starting fairly early on, some languages spun out their own domains like en.wikisource.org, es.wikisource.org, fr.wikisource.org, de.wikisource.org, etc., etc. What's left here is actually mostly texts in languages that don't have their own domain (yet); texts in multiple languages also belong here but texts like that are comparatively rare. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
But, SCNR, if one has a look on the top of this page, he schould see there (on the left) What is Wikisource? very quickly. It is there. -jkb- (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, down below History is one paragraph:
Wikisource is a multilingual project. Texts and translations of texts are welcome in all languages that have no own subdomain.
Searching much more I find at Wikisource:Languages there is a note:
This wiki has a total of 33,041 content pages. The vast majority are accounted for in the language categories listed in the chart above.
I count just less than 30000 in the table, so the statement is accurate. The actual pages at wikisource.org here for reasons of themselves being multilingual are < 3000.
Mahāgaja's statement
texts in multiple languages also belong here but texts like that are comparatively rare.
should probably be mentioned in that very short paragraph at Languages and translations, even if through numbers and impact the multilingual aspect doesn't deserve mention on wikisource.org Main Page. Okay for me to do that? Shenme (talk) 01:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

2020 Coolest Tool Award Ceremony on December 11th[edit]

Hello all,

The ceremony of the 2020 Wikimedia Coolest Tool Award will take place virtually on Friday, December 11th, at 17:00 GMT. This award is highlighting tools that have been nominated by contributors to the Wikimedia projects, and the ceremony will be a nice moment to show appreciation to the tools developers and maybe discover new tools!

You will find more information here about the livestream and the discussions channels. Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 10:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-50[edit]

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Recent changes

  • You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time. Some wikis already had this function. [45][46]

Changes later this week

  • Information from Wikidata that is used on a wiki page can be shown in recent changes and watchlists on a Wikimedia wiki. To see this you need to turn on showing Wikidata edits in your watchlist in the preferences. Changes to the Wikidata description in the language of a Wikimedia wiki will then be shown in recent changes and watchlists. This will not show edits to languages that are not relevant to your wiki. [47][48]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 December. It will be on all wikis from 10 December (calendar).

Future changes

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16:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

What to do about "What?"[edit]

An IP dropped a couple of... items. Not exactly Italian - a dialect. Google translate suspects Corsican. I'm wondering at "Friull ringrazie il cit" (Friuli thanks him) as Friulian. Geolocates to northern Italy.

Two pages, dropped in main space, lacking attribution or even which language, by an IP. The first dropping is at best a ribald song. (tu sès un gran minchion ~=~ you are a big fool) Could be famous songs, or school jokes.

What to do? Shenme (talk) 09:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Ah, farther back in time we have User:Mizardellorsa adding pages, such as Pater noster par furlan which begins:
Pari nestri ch’ees in cijl
See sanctificaat là to nom
Cute web site has article Mapping Europe's Linguistic Diversity via the Lord's Prayer which has
Foro-Juliani: (old outdated naming)
Pari nestri ch'ees in Cyl. See sanctificaat la to Nom
so, yes, Friuli?
Ah, I see User:Mizardellorsa adding notes to Main Page/Furlan (wikt:furlan)
Is there some categorization that is being skipped for these added pages? Like Category:Furlan ? Shenme (talk) 09:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

What to do about "Yuck!"[edit]

User:Academy Knovva ? Deletable? Blankable? (I note that wikisource.org doesn't have template:sdelete as en.wikisource.org does. Are deletions more or less troublesome here?) Shenme (talk) 09:57, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021[edit]

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We invite all registered users to vote on the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. You can vote from now until 21 December for as many different wishes as you want.

In the Survey, wishes for new and improved tools for experienced editors are collected. After the voting, we will do our best to grant your wishes. We will start with the most popular ones.

We, the Community Tech, are one of the Wikimedia Foundation teams. We create and improve editing and wiki moderation tools. What we work on is decided based on results of the Community Wishlist Survey. Once a year, you can submit wishes. After two weeks, you can vote on the ones that you're most interested in. Next, we choose wishes from the survey to work on. Some of the wishes may be granted by volunteer developers or other teams.

We are waiting for your votes. Thank you!

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

15:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Delete a page[edit]

Hello everyone,
I made an error of spelling when I created a page. I wrote "Luc Declercq" instead of writing "Author:Luc Declercq". Could someone here erase the redirection?
Sincerely yours,
--Èl-Gueuye-Noere (talk) 17:51, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

OK, done. -jkb- (talk) 21:47, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


Thank you! --Èl-Gueuye-Noere (talk) 09:09, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

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  • There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. It was released in India in September. It can now be downloaded in other countries too. [49]

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21:34, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Walloon Wikisource (deletions)[edit]

Hi admins, as usual, I'm listing the pages I exported to wa: on my user page, so you easily know what you can delete here. --MF-Warburg (talk) 18:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-52[edit]

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  • Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 11 January 2021.

Recent changes

  • The {{citation needed}} template shows when a statement in a Wikipedia article needs a source. If you click on it when you edit with the visual editor there is a popup that explains this. Now it can also show the reason and when it was added. [50]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.

Future changes

  • You can propose and discuss what technical improvements should be done for geographic information. This could be coordinates, maps or other related things.
  • Some wikis use LanguageConverter to switch between writing systems or variants of a language. This can only be done for the entire page. There will be a <langconvert> tag that can convert a piece of text on a page. [51]
  • Oversighters and stewards can hide entries in Special:AbuseLog. They can soon hide multiple entries at once using checkboxes. This works like hiding normal edits. It will happen in early January. [52]

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20:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Impossible de visualiser certains tomes du Nouveau Larousse illustré[edit]

Bonjour, Je ne peux pas visualiser les tomes suivants du Nouveau Larousse illustré :

Wisisource m'indique une erreur : Erreur : une valeur numérique est attendue. J'avais déjà signalé ce problème et je voudrais savoir si une solution est en vue.

Merci Fortelle65 (talk) 21:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Fortelle65: Pales anglais? Espangol? Ver? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Impossible to visualize certain volumes of the illustrated New Larousse
Hello, I cannot view the following volumes of the Illustrated Nouveau Larousse:
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Nouveau_Larousse_illustr%C3%A9,_1898,_III.djvu
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Nouveau_Larousse_illustr%C3%A9,_1898,_IV.djvu
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Nouveau_Larousse_illustr%C3%A9,_1898,_V.djvu
https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Nouveau_Larousse_illustr%C3%A9,_1898,_VI.djvu
Wisisource tells me an error: Error: a numeric value is expected. I had previously reported this problem and would like to know if a solution is in sight.

Can you help?
--Zyephyrus (talk) 19:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
@Fortelle65: Problem avec le DJVU. PDF, non? https://archive.org/download/nouveaularoussei03laro/nouveaularoussei03laro.pdf —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:41, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Tous les DJVU sont téléchargeables et ils semblent intacts et lisibles. Fortelle65 (talk) 20:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
@Fortelle65: File:Nouveau Larousse illustré, 1898, III.djvu ist bien, non? PDF du Archive.org et https://pdf2djvu.com/ ist bien. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

About long poems[edit]

Hello everyone and happy new year. This is my first time coming to Wikisource. Wanna say, it's really nice here.

If I do edit, I'll be editing Georgian entries/poems, so I have a few questions on formatting and especially on long poems. Right now დავითიანი exists as a page written in Latin script. Itself, it's a long poem consisting of different chapters and one of the chapters is ALREADY separated as another page სწავლა მოსწავლეთა, which I just recently filled. So, uhm, what would be the best:

  1. delete სწავლა მოსწავლეთა and keep დავითიანი to renew it
  2. delete დავითიანი and add all chapters separately.

Another question is, if we choose the second option, should we like create a category called დავითიანი under დავით გურამიშვილის პოემები (poems of davit guramishvili) and have all chapters there?

Thank you in advance :D -Solarkoid (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can see we have a georgian section here, see Category:Georgian. Try to find somebody there and discuss this problem with him/her. If there is something to be deleted so mark the page with {{delete}} + reason, no problem for me or for my colleagues to do so. Cheers -jkb- (talk) 21:57, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Advanced Search "Pages in this language" is not working as described[edit]

Hi, I tried a simple Advanced Search of "automobile" and then selected "English" from the drop down on Pages in this language. But the search results still show source texts in other languages that are not English. I noticed the Info icon next to the Pages in this language that describes how it should work, but it doesn't work as described. --Thadguidry (talk) 20:07, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Thadguidry: This is a great point. There is a problem here with data integrity and I've fixed a few hundred pages but there are tens of thousands left to go. The problem is, if you go to any page (e.g. Page:Ag séideadh agus ag ithe - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/24), you can see page information (in this case: https://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Ag_s%C3%A9ideadh_agus_ag_ithe_-_Ua_Laoghaire.djvu/24&action=info) and one of the pieces of info stored here is the language (in this case, it's correct: "ga - Irish"). So when you are using the search by language feature, the MediaWiki software should only be searching pages that have the correct language. Unfortunately, since the default is English, unless someone deliberately changes a given page's information to another language, then many English-language pages will show up flooding results. E.g. Әкеміз was in "en - English" until just now, when I changed it to "kk - Kazakh". —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
To be more clear, I initiated the Advanced Search from the regular domain Wikisource URL. I did not initiate the search from the English subdomain Wikisource URL. By the way, I keep getting an error when I try to include URL's in my posting and replies here. It keeps saying I'm a new user or something and is treating them as external URL's and SPAM so I cannot give you the URL's I'm using to help. (Help Admin?) --Thadguidry (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
@Thadguidry: Yes, I understood that you were searching this edition of Wikisource and not en:. Unfortunately, admins can't unilaterally make you able to be able to post links (without editing the edit filter itself): you'll have to make [x] edits and be a member here for [y] days in order for that restriction to be lifted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:46, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
So what are your next steps to resolve the search filtering problem? Or is this some mass corrections that need to be made to tens of thousands of pages and is really the only proper way to fix it? I.E. is it simply a problem because some users made pages in some wrong language category? --Thadguidry (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Mass corrections. The problem is that persons made pages not in the wrong language as such but that the new pages weren't marked with a language and that default is English. Search in a non-English language and you are liable to get better results but they will be incomplete and missing all of the pages that aren't properly marked. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-02[edit]

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Recent changes

  • You can choose to be reminded when you have not added an edit summary. This can be done in your preferences. This could conflict with the CAPTCHA. This has now been fixed. [53]
  • You can link to specific log entries. You can get these links for example by clicking the timestamps in the log. Until now, such links to private log entries showed no entry even if you had permission to view private log entries. The links now show the entry. [54]
  • Admins can use the abuse filter tool to automatically prevent bad edits. Three changes happened last week:
    • The filter editing interface now shows syntax errors while you type. This is similar to JavaScript pages. It also shows a warning for regular expressions that match the empty string. New warnings will be added later. [55]
    • Oversighters can now hide multiple filter log entries at once using checkboxes on Special:AbuseLog. This is how the usual revision deletion works. [56]
    • When a filter matches too many actions after it has been changed it is "throttled". The most powerful actions are disabled. This is to avoid many editors getting blocked when an administrator made a mistake. The administrator will now get a notification about this "throttle".
  • Advanced item There is a new tool to build new skins. You can also see existing skins. You can give feedback. [57]
  • Advanced item Bots using the API no longer watch pages automatically based on account preferences. Setting the watchlist to watch will still work. This is to reduce the size of the watchlist data in the database. [58]
  • Advanced item Scribunto's file metadata now includes length. [59]
  • Advanced item CSS and JavaScript code pages now have link anchors to line numbers. You can use wikilinks like w:en:MediaWiki:Common.js#L-50. [60]
  • Recurrent item There was a new version of MediaWiki last week. You can read a detailed log of all 763 changes. Most of them are very small and will not affect you.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 January. It will be on all wikis from 14 January (calendar).

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15:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer[edit]

Can somebody tell me why the MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer (and MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon) do not work? We have both since years. -jkb- (talk) 20:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@-jkb-: Not sure what you mean. When I go to Special:Contributions/-jkb-, I see that footer displayed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I wonder what is wrong. When I see the contribution pages (both registered user and IPs) I don't see it. When I go to other projects (either wikisource or wikipedie) everything is OK. As far as I can see I have no sdcripts here that could influence this... -jkb- (talk) 15:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
@-jkb-: Maybe it's your skin? Shows up fine in Monobook. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
I`m sure not. I use vector since years, and as I said, I have no problems with vector in other projects :-( -jkb- (talk) 17:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-03[edit]

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Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 January. It will be on all wikis from 21 January (calendar).

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16:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki Wikisource extension installation[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Bug T272163

Hi! The MediaWiki Wikisource extension is installed on all language-based Wikisources but not on old Wikisource. This extension now contains code to link to Wsexport in the MediaWiki navigation sidebar. So, it might make sense to install it here too in order to replace the current wsexport gadget. Is there anyone who has concerns about it? Tpt (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

While silence is approval, I don't like it when no one responds to good faith questions like this. So to chime in: I don't have concerns and I don't see any reason why this edition of Wikisource would be exempt. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Honestly, I have no Idea what the extension could be :-); if people, who can judge it, have no objections, so do I. -jkb- (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
+1 from me. —Sam Wilson 00:46, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
It's now done. Tpt (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Importer ma thèse de doctorat depuis Wikiversité - Import my PhD thesis from Wikiversity[edit]

Hello !

Juste un petit message pour savoir s’il est envisageable d'importer ma thèse de doctorat en provenance de Wikiversité dans le but de la publier sur Wikisource dès qu'elle sera terminée ?

Just a little message to know if it's possible to import my PhD thesis from Wikiversity in order to publish it on Wikisource as soon as it's finished?

Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 09:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lionel Scheepmans: You should ask at s:fr:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Done Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 13:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-04[edit]

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Problems

Changes later this week

  • Bracket matching will be added to the CodeMirror syntax highlighter on the first wikis. The first wikis are German and Catalan Wikipedia and maybe other Wikimedia wikis. This will happen on 27 January. [64]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 January. It will be on all wikis from 28 January (calendar).

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18:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Share your feedback on the OCR improvements![edit]

Magic Wand Icon 229981 Color Flipped.svg

Hello, everyone! We (the team responsible for the Community Wishlist Survey) have just launched the project for OCR improvements! With this project, we aim to improve the experience of using OCR tools on Wikisource. Please refer to our project page, which provides a full summary of the project and the main problem areas that we have identified.

We would then love if you could answer the questions below. Your feedback is incredibly important to us and it will directly impact the choices we make. Thank you in advance, and we look forward to reading your feedback! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event[edit]

Wikimania's logo.

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Project Grant Open Call[edit]

This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.

For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:

Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!

Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantsTemplate:Atwikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-05[edit]

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Problems

Changes later this week

  • You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource. [66]
  • Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background. [67][68]
  • Advanced item Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like 1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55 as well as the 1.2.3.4/27 syntax for IP ranges. [69]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • Minerva is the skin Wikimedia wikis use for mobile traffic. When a page is protected and you can't edit it you can normally read the source wikicode. This doesn't work on Minerva on mobile devices. This is being fixed. Some text might overlap. This is because your community needs to update MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext to work on mobile. You can read more. [70][71]
  • Advanced item Cloud VPS and Toolforge will change the IP address they use to contact the wikis. The new IP address will be 185.15.56.1. This will happen on February 8. You can read more.

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22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On WIkidata links[edit]

Heads up that they got delayed but for those who don't know, soon, d: will support linking to this edition of Wikisource. Follow phab:T138332 for more. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

That's good to know. Thanks for keeping us informed :) --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 15:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-06[edit]

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Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis. [73]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones. [74][75]
  • Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [76]
  • Advanced item Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead. [77]

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17:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-07[edit]

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Problems

  • There were problems with recent versions of MediaWiki. Because the updates caused problems the developers rolled back to an earlier version. Some updates and new functions will come later than planned. [78][79]
  • Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [80]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).

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17:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-08[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images. [81]
  • Advanced item The syntax highlighter now works with more languages: Futhark, Graphviz/DOT, CDDL and AMDGPU. [82]

Problems

  • Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly. [83]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 February. It will be on all wikis from 25 February (calendar).

Future changes

  • Advanced item There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.

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00:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata links are here![edit]

Following from #On WIkidata links, it is now possibile to link Wikidata items to pages on this site, finally! Many thanks to the people who made this possible.

Links can be added in the "Multilingual sites" box (not the "Wikisource" box), by typing "s" for "sources" or "m" for "multilingual wikisource" (example).

Previously, we used Template:Interwiki to simulate a link; this template should no longer be used. On pages that use it, we need to add the link on Wikidata and then remove the template, I will start doing it but help is welcome. Candalua (talk) 08:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Actually it looks like no one asked for interlanguage links, so everything works except for interlanguage links, and now the developers ask for community consensus to enable interlanguage links as well. I obviously Symbol support vote.svg Support enabling interlanguage links pointing to other Wikisources (not Wikipediæ, as on other multilingual wikis), and hope that many other people will express their opinion. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

See the new phab T275958 as well - -jkb- (talk) 18:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


Two main pages?[edit]

When creating items for main pages, I came across the following pairs:

Maybe they can be merged, maybe not. Jura1 (talk) 10:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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