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Thanks !Thanks!, for you too :) --Zyephyrus (talk) 18:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
...and this one: Champagne :) --Zyephyrus (talk) 00:29, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Zyephyrus, thank a lot! -jkb- (talk) 01:39, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Works of Gjergj Fishta[edit]

Hello jkb! Do you have any concerns about this? Thanks! –BruTe 11:04, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll see in my notices and will let you know, regards, -jkb- (talk) 08:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

As far as I have found there were the following pages by Fishta:

Because of the (formerly) copyvio I moved them to Wikilivres 2009 and deleted here, but now they can be restored anyway. Might be you should restore them by yourself so that you can see if everything is OK (templates etc.). Regards -jkb- (talk) 10:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Re using inter wiki link on punjabi wikipedia[edit]

Hi , I have created a page at wikisource as in link . How to place an internal link on punjabi wikipedia for this.Punjab code pa is not given a language at wikisource but i was able to create page by going to this page in link what is significance of page created on this wiki? --Guglani (talk) 14:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Guglani. If I understand it well you want to make a link in the Punjabi Wikipedia that would link to here, to the Oldwikisource - want you? In this case the syntax (in the Punjabi WP) is simply like
and it should link to the proper page, but it doesn't work in the interwiki collumn, you habe to put the link into the text. Well, it is not the best way but... :-) OK? You are welcome to ask anything, regards -jkb- (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

What a surprise![edit]

I'm very surprised because of it. I cannot believe e-mail notice and my eyes :P Thank you for your surprising message. it is great pleasant thing :) (not joke! I'm really happy because I was deeply sad.) --Sotiale (talk) 14:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

see User talk:Sotiale :-))) -jkb- (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Von dem Fischer un syner Fru[edit]

Was hat die Löschung von Von dem Fischer un syner Fru mit Verweis auf de:Von dem Fischer un syner Fru (1857) zu bedeuten? Es handelt sich um einen plattdeutschen Text, der ganz offensichtlich zum plattdeutschen Wikiborn gehört. --::Slomox:: >< 20:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Slomox. I've just found there the notice
{{delete}} see de:Von dem Fischer un syner Fru (1857)) 
as you can see also in the deletion summary here - I cannot controll this well. When you think it was false so let me know, I will restore it. Regards -jkb- (talk) 22:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
the deletion request came from -jkb- (talk) 22:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Die Löschbegründung habe ich gesehen, aber die Sprache des Textes ist Plattdeutsch und der Text ist daher logischer und legitimer Bestandteil des plattdeutschen Wikiborn. Wenn de.wp den Text ebenfalls hosten will, weil er Bestandteil einer Sammlung ist, die zum größeren Teil aus hochdeutschen Texten besteht, dann kann ich dagegen nichts einwenden. Aber die Löschung hier war falsch, daher würde ich dich bitten, den Text wiederherzustellen. --::Slomox:: >< 19:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
wunschgemäß da, mit Gruß -jkb- (talk) 19:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Vielen Dank :-) --::Slomox:: >< 20:11, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
User:Doug hat den Text jetzt eigenmächtig und ohne Diskussion erneut gelöscht. Könntest du den Text wiederherstellen? --::Slomox:: >< 00:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Slomox, nicht so. Die Diskussion ist auf Wikisource:Proposed_deletions#Von_dem_Fischer_un_syner_Fru, nicht hier. ist nicht für Texte was darf einer anderer Seite bleiben. Dieser Text gehört der de.wikisource und das gleich Text gibt auf de.wikisource jetzt; wenn es eine neue wikisource gibt, kann man den Text von de.wikisource bekommen.--Doug.(talk contribs) 02:06, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Die Diskussion unter "Proposed deletions" war mir nicht bekannt. Das ändert aber nichts daran, dass die Grundargumentation falsch ist. Ich werde dort nochmal posten. --::Slomox:: >< 14:44, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Block request[edit]

Hi -jkb-. I can't find the correct page, which is why I contact you. Could you please block Lovesunshine (talkcontribs)? It's a non-SUL cross-wiki spambot, which is why I can't globally lock it. Thanks in advance for your help! Kind regards, Trijnstel (talk) 16:21, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

yep, -jkb- (talk) 17:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi there. I just now saw your message on my talk page. You have said to not add any inappropriate text. can you please tell me which inappropriate test I had added? Though I know wikipedia a little bit, but I am totally new on Wikisource. Abhijeet Safai (talk) 04:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi. It was the deleted page Charaka samhita, the content was "This is Charaka Samhita!". Regards, -jkb- (talk) 20:06, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Another block request[edit]

Please block NarKo (talkcontribs), a non-sul spam-only account (cross-wiki), which is why I can't lock it. Trijnstel (talk) 14:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, thx for the hint, -jkb- (talk) 15:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

How to upload PDF or JPG books[edit]

Please tell me how to upload books in shape of PDF file or JPEG files?Ameen Akbar (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Uploading should normaly be done on Commons. But you should first clear why you want do upload pdf or jpeg files instead of text, i.e. what is the reason. You better try to deiscus this matter in our WS:Scriptorium. Regards, -jkb- (talk) 11:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Ping test[edit]

@‎Koavf:. Thank for the template and regards -jkb- (talk) 23:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

@-jkb-: No problem! (It works!) —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:17, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Use of the site notice[edit]

Sorry -jkb- but this use of the site notice must be discussed on the scriptorium first, don't you think so? Regards, --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:48, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Hiding spams[edit]

Hello -jkb-, the solution I have used may be not as useful as I'd liked it to be, but I've not found a better one. The idea was to hide summary and content when they show the information about the spam, (because their visibility in the deletion summary is spamming once more!) but I've not found any satisfactory solution. What could we do? --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:11, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, you mean this. Well, if you want to hide something, e.g. like [240904=1 here], you can choos from three oprions: you can hide Revision text, Edit summary and/or Editor's username/IP address. Hidding a revision of an existing page, you use any one or all of them. In the case of a deleted page it is not necessary to do anything, as the "normal user" doesn't see any of these inputs, see e.g. the deleted User:Steinsplitter/common.css; only an admin can find there the option "View or restore one deleted edit?" (on the top left), where you can read the comment and the user/ip, but this is not possible for a user who is not an admin. So, the hidding doesn't change anything. Just log out and try with any deleted page. AFAIK. Regards -jkb- (talk) 06:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Proposal on Scriptorium[edit]

Please see my proposal here: Wikisource:Scriptorium#Admin Activity Review.--Doug.(talk contribs) 01:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Фирүзә Абдуллина et. al.[edit]

The same problem likely concerns most texts in Mingrelian and Aromanian.

I think about preparing here a page similar to c:COM:OTRS where users could be redirected. It would have to be multilingual. Would you help?

Ankry (talk) 10:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

OTRS for Sourceswiki is a very old idea fo mine. Yep, -jkb- (talk) 10:21, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


I am asking you to delete Category:Perlembagaan parti politik di Malaysia. That's why I put empty page, User:-jkb- just delete this in the delete template. Joanna20 (talk) 11:24, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


Dear Ankry, I've responded you on my talk page. Could you please read? Lizalizaufa (talk) 06:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Азат хәлилов[edit]

Hello. Why erase my own works. I sent a request to the copyright. Waiting for an answer.--Кинйә 17:55, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

A question about copyright policy[edit]

Hello, seeing you are an admin I take the liberty of bothering you : ))

Can I import a dictionary published in 1960 that does not say anything about license it was published with? If not, who do I need to ask the permission? publisher or editors? or all the authors outright? (chief editor is deceased BTW). If I get the permission does it need to be on paper (in case they change their mind)?. In case I get the permission from them, do I need to ask the ones who actually made a digital version of the work?

Thanks you. --Dixtosa (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@Dixtosa: I answer to you as you asked for this on my talkpage:
Can I import a dictionary published in 1960 that does not say anything about license it was published with? — You could import that dictionary provided: 1) it is in the PD (Public Domain) in the country where it was published first and (or at least) in the US as well; 2) or it is not in PD yet, but you can get permission from the copyright holder of that work to use the work under CC-BY-SA 3.0 license.
Regarding getting into PD: in general, it depends on: what is the country (state) where the work (that dictionary as for current case) was published first (take in account that any edition could potentially be not the first publication — but only the first publication does matter in the copyright issues), which are the copyright laws of that country, and for most countries the death year of the author is important because copyright terms are calculated based on that year. Absence of license notice does not matter, with rare exceptions (as for US works published before 1989). Also URAA issues can come in place. Maybe I would say to you more precisely whether this work in PD if you tell me what is the coutry and what is the year of the author's death.
If not, who do I need to ask the permission? publisher or editors? or all the authors outright? (chief editor is deceased BTW). — You must get permission from the copyright holder(s). They may be various and different from case to case: e. g. author him/herself (if he/she is still alive), his/her heirs (descendants), the publisher(s), editor(s) and etc. You must investigate and get information who is (are) the copyright holder(s).
If you get such information then you may try to communicate to those holders anyhow, in order they release the work under CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. If they are agree then they (not you!) must register their permission on the Wikimedia's OTRS, as e. g. described here in the en-WP: w:Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries:
If you failed to obtain such information and there is no any evidences that the work is in PD — then, unfortunately, you may not publish the work at any of the Wikimedia Foundation sites (including Wikisource), according to Wikimedia policies.
Also you may addtionally read rules: here in the multi-WS: Wikisource:Copyright policy, and on the en-WS: en:Wikisource:Copyright policy, en:Help:Public domain; also on en-Wikipedia (those rules can be applied to the WS as well): w:Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, w:Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials, w:Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. --Nigmont (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
@Nigmont:, Thank you for such a comprehensive answer! It is clear now, except for the digitalization part. Do I need any kind of permission from them?--Dixtosa (talk) 17:08, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dixtosa: sorry but I do not understand this your question... What do you mean on: permission on digitalization? Do you mean: have you to get one supplementary permission from the copyright holder to perform digitalization, — a permission additional, extra to the permission of to use the work on CC-BY-SA 3.0 terms? If you really meant so then the answer is: no, you needn't such separate permission as I think, CC-BY-SA permission is well enough. Or what did you mean? --Nigmont (talk) 17:22, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
@Nigmont: No, imagine that someone else (not me, not copyright holder) has digitalized the intellectual property and published it through a website, so you can view parts of the work but you can't download the whole work at once. This is loosely like where you can view some pages but not download the book. So if I download all the data via web scraping, is that illegal?--Dixtosa (talk) 17:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dixtosa: as far as I know: yes, it's illegal — provided the work is not in PD and you have not permission from the copyright holder to do so. And to upload such scans extracted by this way onto any of Wikimedia sites is considered as copyright infringement and strictly prohibited by Wikimedia policies, and you can get blocked for doing so (and even to get blocked indefinitely for repeated attempts). So anyway you need either clear proof that the work is in PD, or a permission from copyright holders registered in the OTRS system (as described on some pages which links I provided in the previous my comments above). --Nigmont (talk) 18:02, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
No, no, no I meant if I HAVE the permission but not the digital version FROM the copyright holders.
The reason I thought it was illegal was that digitalization is still a work... and not easy to be honest.
//edit conflict// Hi. Well, the question of a simple digitalisation is not quite that important as such digitalisation doesn't produce any copyright (in a normal case). But as Nigmont wrote above it will be very hard to get a permission for a dictionary with some more dozens of authors -the copyright holders. And: if there is a website publishing a work but not giving an information o the copyright - so it doesn't meen at all that the work is free. Many websites publish works but don't care of the copyright. Thanks to Nigmont for answering here... -jkb- (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
So I guess I can do web scraping if I have the permission from the holders. Thanks! --Dixtosa (talk) 18:11, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dixtosa: Yes, of course — if you have the permission (to use on CC-BY-SA terms) from the copyright holders then you are completely free to do such scraping without any restrictions, and it is perfectly allowed to upload such scans on Wikimedia Commons and other Wikimedia sites (if they are appropriate for this). --Nigmont (talk) 18:32, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
add: the permission must be given by all copyright holders; and, the permission should be sent to OTRS. Regards, -jkb- (talk) 20:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Wrong comment of edit[edit]

Hello, -jkb-!

I made an error in the comment to this edit — I'm sorry... I wrote wrong destination where the topics where archived: I marked Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/Jan 2014 - Dec 2014 but really Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/Jan 2015 - Dec 2015 is needed. Can you, as an admin, fix the desc. or the edit (if it is available by engine — I don't know); or at least to remove / hide the comment? In order to avoid confuse someone who would see the edit history... The moving of the topics were done to correct page, the error is only in this desc. --Nigmont (talk) 12:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nigmont, done, an noted here, cheers -jkb- (talk) 12:45, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Bureaucrat, new travel greetings...[edit]

Welcome again :-)

--Zyephyrus (talk) 00:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello Zyephyrus, nice to read this message - I have just come home! Now, we should solve the problems with Wikilivres, and then I would be quite happy :-)

Regards -jkb- (talk) 20:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

File:PD-US-Karel Dostál-Lutinov - Duch Německa - 1917.djvu[edit]


There is no Page#113 there (Stará panna by E. Mattl-Löwenkreuzowá). It is PD-1923 and may be uploaded here. Please, undelete this one page. Abrakadabra 123a (talk) 13:14, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

OK, undeleted - next time pls mention it somewhere when you upload asuch files, thanks. -jkb- (talk) 13:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


Import to Page namespace works nice if you choose destination namespace manually. Namespace automatic identification does not seem to work for non-standard namespaces (Page/Author/...).

BTW, I merged two versions of page 115, hopefully identified all typos. I also hope, I guess Czech PD date for this work properly; definitely it was not 1923 :)

Ankry (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Ankry: thank you a lot. "1923" was my error edit by some c&p mishap that occured in the same minute in the cssource as well...
The destination of the namespace: yep I was quite surprised after I have seen the result, in the past I did some interwiki imports and I thought to remember that the proper namespace will be chosen automatically - I wanted to correct it later. So, many thanks! -jkb- (talk) 21:51, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Seite löschen[edit]

Hallo -jkb-,

ich habe gesehen, dass du hier Admin bis. Kannst du mir bitte die Seite User:Labant/common.css löschen. Im voraus herzlichen Dank. --00:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Hančička wowčerjowa[edit]

Any hint which languege is it: Czech? Slovak? another?

I don't think the text is appropriate here. Ankry (talk) 21:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

No idea, no Czech, no Slovak, no Polish... might be Sorbian, I ask somebody in dewiki and tell you. -jkb- (talk) 21:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ankry: see here - Sorbian, older than 100 years. I ask the user for more details. -jkb- (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
OK. The Author is Michał Nawka (1885–1968) and not Zejler, as my colleague proposed the first time; too young for us - not appropriate. -jkb- (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
The User Fnbk is no more active. -jkb- (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I deleted the page. So long, -jkb- (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Thx. But it is not so obvious: there is a chance to save it if it was first published pre-1923... @J budissin: any hints? Ankry (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Yep, I know. In this case we can revert my deletion, I try to get some information still. But in my opinion it is better to restore it later than to have here a copyvio. But you can restore it now as well, absolutely no problem for me :-) -jkb- (talk) 09:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ankry: No hints, and I don't think so. --J budissin (talk) 09:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Ein Einwand gegen die Relativtheorie der Elektrodynamik und seine Beseitigung and similar pages[edit]

Do you remember why this article was moved to Wikilivres? As 1907 publication it seems to be PD-US and suitable for Ankry (talk) 09:15, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Ankry: it's a long time ago, and after the policy of wikilivres/bibliowiki changed, I had no contacts with the project, more over I had since two or three years problems to log in. Nevertheless: I could se in the logs over there, that the article has been importet twice:

  • 10:11, 3 July 2014‎ imported>Eclecticology‎ . . (7,173 bytes) (-1)‎
  • 20:44, 28 June 2010‎ imported>Titus‎ . . (7,174 bytes) (+7,174)‎ . . (New)

and I seem to be the one who posted the template here only ([1]). Might be it would help to ask @Zyephyrus, Electron: as the still seem to work on Wikilivres/Bibliowik so that they can have a look into the logs, discussion etc. So long, -jkb- (talk) 12:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I just wonder if there was a reason to delete this text (and likely other texts from Category:Moved to Wikilivres) here. May it be restored as PD-US-1923-abroad? Your opinion? Did copyright rules in Multilingual Wikisource change since that time? Ankry (talk) 13:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
First, I'm not quite sure, the general copyright rules changed a bit in general (if there is any impact on pd-us-1923-abroad - ??, somebody else should help here), but there was a change in wikilivres/bibliowiki as the server moved from Canada to South Corea and the to New Zealand AFAIK, but this is a point Zyephyrus could answer. However, if today the copyright rules here would allow to host the text here, we could remove them back. Anyway, the text has been moved 2010 and today we have 2019. -jkb- (talk) 13:44, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
@Ankry: Ponieważ tu wszyscy sami swoi to nie będę się produkował in English... Prawdę powiedziawszy nie mam pojęcia, czemu to zostało przeniesione do wikilivres. Skopiował to jak widzimy z historii strony User:Titus, ale obecnie nie jest on u nas zarejestrowany. Po serii kilku przenosin na nowe serwery serwis stracił stare logi, więc trudno tu cokolwiek powiedzieć. Tekst był opublikowany w 1907 więc był i jest PD-US, chyba, że tylko powstał w tym roku a nie był nigdzie publikowany, ale w to wątpię... Po za tym o ile sobie przypominam mul też nie od razu stał się składem prac PD-US; ścierały się różne koncepcje. Zresztą np. zdaje się np. Francuzi takie prace trzymają u siebie na swoich wikiźródłach i też jest cacy. Nie wiem jak tam to było z Niemcami. Być może inaczej... Zresztą nie znam niemieckiego. Być może coś się zachowało w starych dyskusjach na mul, ale trzeba by było się do nich dogrzebać... Electron Smiley kabelsalat.gif <Talk?> 14:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I was a bit afraid if that was a DMCA-like office action: but, I suppose, you would remember if this was the case. I will restore the pages with clear bibliographic references (and pre-1924).
@Electron: Is there any policy in Wikilivres concerning works that are moved back? Avoiding duplicates? No? Co do francuskich tekstów, część niedawno przenosiłem tutaj, więc różnie to bywa. A parę usuniętych z jako "office action" mam do wyjaśnienia w TODO (i ewentualnego przeniesienia). Ankry (talk) 15:24, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I guess the removing is OK. -jkb- (talk) 15:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
No, wikilivres policy about duplicated texts was changed about a year ago. We keep them now, nevertheles they are somewhere else were restored. It is not a big project so far, so every text is valuable. The more texts we are the more potencial readers we can have...
@Ankry: Co do Francuzów - to oni mają trochę pomieszane z poplątanym, np. na swojej wikipedii trzymają pliki, które łamią ich prawa autorskie, które nie uznają wolności panoramy... Oczywiście wg praw US są one OK. Są bardziej praktyczni, od nas, że tak powiem. Tam gdzie znajdą jakąś lukę prawną tam wchodzą bez szczypania. Ale być może postanowili na wikiźródłach część prac rozdzielić. W sumie co to komu szkodzi. Wystarczy dać linka... Electron Smiley kabelsalat.gif <Talk?> 15:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Author:Joseph Modave[edit]

Hello, it's this page (only the redirection) that has to be deleted, not this one, can you restore it please? Reptilien.19831209BE1 (talk) 20:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reptilien.19831209BE1: Hi, I did my best now - i guess it happened because odf hte redirect :-) - is it OK now? Cheers -jkb- (talk) 20:45, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, all is right now ! Thanks ;-) Reptilien.19831209BE1 (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Good luck here :-) -jkb- (talk) 20:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

question to deletion[edit]

@Candalua:, you deleted this talk page, why? -jkb- (talk) 11:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry. I was mass-deleting Walloon pages, and for some unexplicable reason this page ended up in the deletion list. I'll check more carefully next time. --Candalua (talk) 08:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)