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ar: هذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
bn: এটি উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যা নিয়ে আলোচনা করার একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
de: Dies ist eine zentrale Stelle, um alle Themen um Wikisource zu diskutieren, und ein Platz, um nach Hilfe zu fragen. Benutzen Sie die Sprache(n), die Sie beherrschen, und übersetzen Sie, was Ihnen gefällt.
diq: No wikiçıme heta merselan war ardış u mınaqeşe kerdış i heta cay peşti waştışiyo.Zıwanê ke şıma zanê ê zımani dı iştıraq bıkerê u açarnayış seni beno bıumısê.
el: Αυτή είναι η κεντρική τοποθεσία για να συζητήσετε θέματα για τη Βικιθήκη, αλλά και το μέρος για να ζητήσετε βοήθεια. Χρησιμοποιήστε τη γλώσσα (ή τις γλώσσες) που γνωρίζετε και μεταφράστε αυτά που θέλετε.
en: This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help. Use the language(s) you know, and translate what you like.
eo: Ĉi tio estas la centra loko por diskuti problemojn pri Vikifontaro, kaj la loko por serĉi helpon. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas, kaj traduku kion vi volas.
es: Este es el lugar central para discutir cualquier asunto de Wikisource y es el lugar para pedir ayuda. Use los idiomas que conozca, y traduzca lo que crea necesario que otros sepan.
fr: Ceci est la page principale pour discuter de ce qui a trait à Wikisource, et pour demander de l’aide. Utilisez la (ou les) langue(s) que vous connaissez, et traduisez ce qui vous plaît.
ga: Seo an lárnionad chun téamaí a bhaineann le Vicífhoinse a phlé, agus an áit inar féidir leat cabhair a iarraidh. Bain usáid as teanga ar bith dá bhfuil agat agus aistrigh cibé rud is mian leat.
gbm: इ च मझळु अड्डा विकीसोतु दगड़ मुद्दा बारा म छुंई लगाणु खुणी, अर ठाणु मदद मंगण खुणी. इस्तेमाल कारा उ भाखा ज्व तुमु बिंगुदौ, अर बदलाखरा जू च पसंद​।
he: זה הדף המיועד לדיונים העוסקים בויקיטקסט, והמקום לפנות לעזרה. השתמשו בשפות שאתם מכירים, ותרגמו את מה שאתם רוצים.
hr: Ovo je središnje mjesto za raspravljanje o temama u svezi s Wikizvorom, kao i mjesto za pitati za pomoć. Rabite jezik(e) koje znate, te prevodite što želite.
hy: Սա Վիքիդարանի հետ կապված հարցերի քննարկման կենտրոնական վայրն է, որտեղ դուք կարող եք նաև դիմել հարցերով։ Օգտագործեք ձեր իմացած լեզուն(երը) և թարգմանե՛ք ի՜նչ կամենում եք։
io: Ita esas la centrala loko por diskutar problemi pri Wikifonto, e la loko por serchar helpo. Uzez la linguo/i quan vu parolas, e tradukar quon/in vu volas.
it: Questo è il luogo principale dove discutere di Wikisource, e il posto dove chiedere aiuto.Scrivi nella lingua che vuoi, puoi anche tradurre quello che vuoi.
ja: ここはプロジェクトについて議論したり、質問がある時に尋ねたりするための場所です。お望みの言語を使って書き込んで下さい。他の人の書き込みを翻訳して下さる方も歓迎です。
ko: 이곳은 주로 위키문헌과 관련된 문제들에 관한 논의를 하는 곳이며 도움을 구할 수 있는 곳입니다. 당신이 구사할 수 있는 언어를 사용해서 마음껏 번역해 주시길 바랍니다.
nb: Dette er det sentrale stedet å diskutere saker som angår Wikisource, og stedet for å be om hjelp. Bruk de språka du kan, og oversett det du vil.
nl: Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
nn: Dette er den sentrale staden å diskutere saker som gjeld Wikisource, og staden for å be om hjelp. Bruk dei språka du kan, og set om det du vil.
pl: To główne miejsce dyskusji o sprawach związanych z Wikiźródłami i miejsce uzyskiwania pomocy. Używaj języków, które znasz i tłumacz co i kiedy chcesz.
pt: Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
ro: Acesta este locul central de discutare a problemelor legate de Wikisursă și locul unde se poate solicita ajutor. Folosiți limbile pe care le stăpâniți, și când doriți, traduceți ceea ce vă place
ru: Это центральное место для обсуждений, связанных с Викитекой в целом, а также место, где можно спросить о помощи. Используйте язык, который вы знаете и переводите что и когда вам нравится.
su: Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv: Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
tl: Ito ang sentrong lokasyon para pag-usupan ang mga isyu kasama ng Wikisource, at ang lugar upang humingi ng tulong. Gamitin ang (mga) wika na alam mo, at isalin ang anong gusto mo.
uk: Це центральне місце для обговорень, пов'язаних з Вікіджерелами в цілому, а також місце, де можна попросити про допомогу. Використовуйте мову, яку ви знаєте і перекладайте те, що вам подобається.
vi: Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
yue: 呢度係主要討論維基文庫相關問題嘅版面。你可以用你識得嘅語言留言,亦都可以幫手翻譯其他人嘅留言。
zh-hant: 這裡是討論與維基文庫有關話題和尋求幫助的頁面。使用您所了解的語言留言。您也可以在任何時候把他人的留言翻譯成您熟悉的語言。
zh-hans: 这里是讨论与维基文库有关话题和寻求帮助的页面。使用您所了解的语言留言。您也可以在任何时候把他人的留言翻译成您熟悉的语言。
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Tech News: 2020-38[edit]

16:19, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39[edit]

21:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-40[edit]

21:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest[edit]

21:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-41[edit]

16:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric[edit]

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language.

Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.

Thank you! Qgil-WMF (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-42[edit]

15:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add language template to main page template[edit]

Hello. I discovered that the letters on the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' did not have language codes. So I tried to add the 'Lang template' ({{Lang}}) to that template page, but I couldn't do it because the page was protected. So I want someone to add the template to 'Template:TopTenCircle' (For example: Special:Diff/850216 <User:TKsdik8900/sandbox 04:07, 18 October 2020‎>). In summary, I want to see the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' content replaced by Special:Diff/850216. I also used machine translation, so I'm sorry if there is any confusion in this text. Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 04:43, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

ar and he were a huge pain but otherwise done. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-43[edit]

16:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Important: maintenance operation on October 27[edit]

-- Trizek (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-44[edit]

17:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of an old logo image[edit]

File:Stw-wslogo2.png was uploaded in 2006, apparently as part of a contest, and Yann (talkcontribs) deleted it afterwards. Apparently someone else remixed it and made File:Contactus-wmcolors.png, which has been somewhat widely used since then. The deleted file would arguably be a part of the other file's history, and perhaps of the history of the project, that we would like to maintain. Administrators: can you please undelete it? Even better, can you import it to Commons with its file history?

Here are some more details. Judging by an edit summary given by Eloquence (talkcontribs), it looks like the file is currently used as part of File:Contactus-wmcolors.png (a file with 100+ usages) - it would be nice if the original file with its history remains available. It seems that the creator was Stw (talkcontribs) and the work was made public domain. [28] Whym (talk) 08:34, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Good eye. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:51, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-45[edit]

16:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2[edit]

22:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for an interface admin to edit MediaWiki:OCR.js[edit]

(Follow-up of December 2019 topic)

Hi!

Since OCR bug has evolved positively thanks to Xover, can an interface admin edit related gadget in order to allow using new OCR when it works (and still fallback to old one in other cases), please? Needed changes are on my sandbox. --Pols12 (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pols12: If your sandbox can just include only the exact text of the gadget and nothing else, then I will port it over. Please ping me when you've done this. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Actually it does, Koavf. 🙂 --Pols12 (talk) 03:22, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes check.svg DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 03:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-46[edit]

15:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Update to ICU Unicode library[edit]

Trizek (WMF) 14:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-47[edit]

15:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021[edit]

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The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 November, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 December and 21 December.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 05:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Needless deletion of empty categories[edit]

I have noticed that administrator User:Koavf deleted in the past some "public domain" categories with comment "empty cat.", for example: "11:59, 25 July 2020 Koavf talk contribs deleted page Category:PD-anon-75-1996 (empty cat.)". I think that it is a bad idea — to speedy delete good (not vandal) categories having the only reason that the category is empty. The fact that a category is empty does not mean that the category is not needed any longer: the category may be empty now, but it may become not empty in the future, so there may be no sense in deleting it for now. For example, the category cited above — Category:PD-anon-75-1996 — has become needed again. It should be noticed, that the English Wikisource has not such a reason for speedy deletion as that "the category is empty" — see en:Wikisource:Deletion policy, section Speedy deletion; and in fact, they do not delete empty PD categories — see en:Category:Works by license, for example — categories "PD-old-60-1996" and "Image-PD-old-75".

So I ask: To undelete this (PD-anon-75-1996) and other PD categories. Here is the list (may be not full — maybe I missed something) of PD-categories deleted by Koavf, which must be restored, in my opinion:

Also I propose to the community (especially to admins) — do not speedy delete (or do not request speedy deletion) good categories only by the reason that the category is empty. Instead of that, if you think that the category is not needed any longer on Wikisource — nominate it on the Wikisource:Proposed deletions first and proceed usual deletion discussion. And I specifically point out, that I propose this not only for "public domain" categories but also all others — I think all categories should pass through normal discussion and only after that may be deleted. Reasonable exceptions may be, of course, but as a general rule — it should be accepted that a discussion is required before deletion of empty categories. --Nigmont (talk) 20:17, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

It's easy to ask for undeletion or to just recreate the category yourself: nothing was stopping you from doing that. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
The fact that some action may be easily corrected by some other action — it cannot justify that the first, initial action was good and must not be frowned on. Each sort of vandalism (except, may be, administrative vandalism) may be easily reverted, but it's cannot serve a reason to say that a vandalism should be forgiven and tolerated, and that vandalism is a nice thing. I don't want to say that needless deletion of categories is a some kind of vandalism, but nevertheless, needless deletion of categories also belongs to area of wrong-doing (to which vandalism also belongs to), and to some sort of abuse of admin's privileges; and it at least must be considered as a mistake, if nothing more. --Nigmont (talk) 21:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
There are an infinite amount of categories that we could have that could be useful about Dinka poetry or 2054 works etc. That's no justification for having a raft of empty categories. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:37, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I didn't say about "having a raft of empty categories". I just said that you should not delete categories by your personal judgement only, but instead of that — you should deliver decision to all the community (by putting on Wikisource:Proposed deletions), and let them to decide — whether category is really not needed. Please notice, that other admins do not behave like you. It seems to me that you pose yourselves to be smarter than all other users here (including admins) put together, but it does not seem to be true that you are smarter than all others, considering your past mistakes in this year, alike — futile categorizing of languages which disturbed other users, and inept importing of author's template and involved items, after which action the normal work of wikidata for author's page was broken. So I propose you to put away your self-overestimation and be wise, and don't delete categories by personal judgement only. Those categories didn't bothered all other admins, and they didn't touch them; do you really think that they are just fools here, and only you occured to be enough intelligent to make proper decisions on those categories, without discussion? --Nigmont (talk) 22:07, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
In addition: "to just recreate the category yourself" — to do this way is wrong, because after this action the history of category is lost (at least, it is not seen for non-admins). The history of categories (the same as for other pages) is important, isn't it?
"There are an infinite amount of categories that we could have that could be useful about Dinka poetry or 2054 works etc." — There are different kinds of probability of when and where some category may be used in the future. You proposed examples of categories which currently are useless (and were useless in the past), but for some other categories there is quite other probability of existence. For PD-categories — even if they were empty now then they were used in the past, and most likely will be used in the future, so to delete them is an unreasоnаble and futile action. For example, Category:PD-old-99-1923 is currently filled and needed. In the next year (2021) it will become empty, and you will delete it? And in 2023 year — it will be needed again... Why to delete and then recreate such categories? Why not just to leave them to remain? --Nigmont (talk) 22:51, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I deleted an empty category. Please dial down all your nonsense and accusations. —Justin (koavf)TCM 01:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
We should better specify which empty categories to be speedily deleted, to be deleted with discussions, or to be kept even when empty.--Jusjih (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-48[edit]

17:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

link to en"Translation: space doesn't work[edit]

I noticed a broken link at Wikisource:The_Open_Mishnah_Project. The old link was [[en:Mishnah | Mishnah]] (which also doesn't work. However that page was moved to a new Translation namespace [[en:Translation:Mishnah]] and that doesn't work either. Any en: link from \wikisource.org seems to not work Nissimnanach (talk) 01:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Disregard, my error, I ought to use [[:en:Mishnah | Mishnah]] etc Nissimnanach (talk) 01:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Nissimnanach