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ar: هذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
bn: এটি উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যা নিয়ে আলোচনা করার একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
de: Dies ist eine zentrale Stelle, um alle Themen um Wikisource zu diskutieren, und ein Platz, um nach Hilfe zu fragen. Benutzen Sie die Sprache(n), die Sie beherrschen, und übersetzen Sie, was Ihnen gefällt.
diq: No wikiçıme heta merselan war ardış u mınaqeşe kerdış i heta cay peşti waştışiyo.Zıwanê ke şıma zanê ê zımani dı iştıraq bıkerê u açarnayış seni beno bıumısê.
el: Αυτή είναι η κεντρική τοποθεσία για να συζητήσετε θέματα για τη Βικιθήκη, αλλά και το μέρος για να ζητήσετε βοήθεια. Χρησιμοποιήστε τη γλώσσα (ή τις γλώσσες) που γνωρίζετε και μεταφράστε αυτά που θέλετε.
fa: این مکان مرکزی برای بحث در مورد مسائل درباره ویکی‌نبشته و مکانی برای درخواست کمک است. از زبان (هایی) که می‌شناسید استفاده کنید و آنچه را دوست دارید ترجمه کنید.
en: This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help. Use the language(s) you know, and translate what you like.
eo: Ĉi tio estas la centra loko por diskuti problemojn pri Vikifontaro, kaj la loko por serĉi helpon. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas, kaj traduku kion vi volas.
es: Este es el lugar central para discutir cualquier asunto de Wikisource y es el lugar para pedir ayuda. Use los idiomas que conozca, y traduzca lo que crea necesario que otros sepan.
fr: Ceci est la page principale pour discuter de ce qui a trait à Wikisource, et pour demander de l’aide. Utilisez la (ou les) langue(s) que vous connaissez, et traduisez ce qui vous plaît.
ga: Seo an lárnionad chun téamaí a bhaineann le Vicífhoinse a phlé, agus an áit inar féidir leat cabhair a iarraidh. Bain usáid as teanga ar bith dá bhfuil agat agus aistrigh cibé rud is mian leat.
gbm: इ च मझळु अड्डा विकीसोतु दगड़ मुद्दा बारा म छुंई लगाणु खुणी, अर ठाणु मदद मंगण खुणी. इस्तेमाल कारा उ भाखा ज्व तुमु बिंगुदौ, अर बदलाखरा जू च पसंद​।
he: זה הדף המיועד לדיונים העוסקים בויקיטקסט, והמקום לפנות לעזרה. השתמשו בשפות שאתם מכירים, ותרגמו את מה שאתם רוצים.
hy: Սա Վիքիդարանի հետ կապված հարցերի քննարկման կենտրոնական վայրն է, որտեղ դուք կարող եք նաև դիմել հարցերով։ Օգտագործեք ձեր իմացած լեզուն(երը) և թարգմանե՛ք ի՜նչ կամենում եք։
io: Ita esas la centrala loko por diskutar problemi pri Wikifonto, e la loko por serchar helpo. Uzez la linguo/i quan vu parolas, e tradukar quon/in vu volas.
it: Questo è il luogo principale dove discutere di Wikisource, e il posto dove chiedere aiuto.Scrivi nella lingua che vuoi, puoi anche tradurre quello che vuoi.
ja: ここはプロジェクトについて議論したり、質問がある時に尋ねたりするための場所です。お望みの言語を使って書き込んで下さい。他の人の書き込みを翻訳して下さる方も歓迎です。
ko: 이곳은 위키문헌과 관련한 논의를 하는 주된 곳이자 도움을 구할 수 있는 곳입니다. 구사할 수 있는 언어를 사용하여 다른 내용을 마음껏 번역해 주시길 바랍니다.
nl: Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
nn: Dette er den sentrale staden å diskutere saker som gjeld Wikisource, og staden for å be om hjelp. Bruk dei språka du kan, og set om det du vil.
pt: Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
ru: Это центральное место для обсуждений, связанных с Викитекой в целом, а также место, где можно спросить о помощи. Используйте язык, который вы знаете и переводите что и когда вам нравится.
su: Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv: Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
tl: Ito ang sentrong lokasyon para pag-usupan ang mga isyu kasama ng Wikisource, at ang lugar upang humingi ng tulong. Gamitin ang (mga) wika na alam mo, at isalin ang anong gusto mo.
vi: Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
yue: 呢度係主要討論維基文庫相關問題嘅版面。你可以用你識得嘅語言留言，亦都可以幫手翻譯其他人嘅留言。
zh-hant: 這裡是討論與維基文庫有關話題和尋求幫助的頁面。使用您所了解的語言留言。您也可以在任何時候把他人的留言翻譯成您熟悉的語言。
zh-hans: 这里是讨论与维基文库有关话题和寻求帮助的页面。使用您所了解的语言留言。您也可以在任何时候把他人的留言翻译成您熟悉的语言。
id:Ini adalah lokasi sentral untuk mendiskusikan berbagai masalah dengan Wikisource, dan tempat untuk meminta bantuan. Gunakan bahasa yang Anda ketahui, dan terjemahkan sesuka Anda.
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15:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[edit]

Hello everyone,

We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.

Summary:

We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.

Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year[edit]

In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.

However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.

We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.

Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities[edit]

We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.

A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet[edit]

We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.

We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!

Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase[edit]

If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!

Feedback[edit]

  • What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
  • How would you like to use our new sandbox?
  • What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
  • What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?

Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Results for the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election[edit]

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Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:

  1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
  2. Victoria Doronina
  3. Dariusz Jemielniak
  4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.

Read the full announcement here. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board[edit]

I propose to delete the Tech News here without archiving it and also support the unsubscription of this to this board. It is overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content. It is also not on-topic, as this is a Wikisource general discussion board.

This board is one of hundreds of targets for these news announcements, so people have other options for getting news. Mostly two kinds of users are at this board: experienced Wikimedia editors who know how to access news elsewhere, and less experienced Wikimedia editors who are not looking for archives of news updates.

Support Bluerasberry (talk) 20:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment, Why not just have separate places for these news? Tech News contains things like announcements of server switches and technical features that can be beneficial for Wikisource, an example of a better alternative to deleting would be creating something like "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements" which is linked prominently above and only contains this month's (or only six months or a year, depending on how much news / automated messages are actually placed here) announcements and newsletters, while the main Scriptorium could then be exclusively used for community discussions and urgent announcements (exclusively related to Wikisource) free from all the clutter. Note: I am not a frequent contributor here, I just read this website. -- Donald Trung/徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 12:46, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would say No. It should be found by the users. What we can do is to archive the tech news more frequently, might be in a special archive like Tech Archive or something like this. -jkb- (talk) 17:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Once more: what shall we do wit this? Both alternatives are possible. -jkb- (talk) 21:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Advice for multilingual text - Popul Vul - Mayan language[edit]

I have this text in various forms including scanned images and digital text.

The original text is in both en:Kʼicheʼ language and Spanish, but I may also have access to translations with Wikimedia compatible copyright.

Here are my questions:

  1. Which language version Wikisource is the right place for central management of this? The original publication contains the full text in K'iche and Spanish.
  2. Can someone point me to a good example of a text in Wikisource which also has translations? I want to see how Wikisource links translations of texts across languages.
  3. K'iche script is unique and has an ISO code. Can anyone tell me if Wikisource can already handle text in that script?
  4. If K'iche is not already set up...
    1. How complicated is it to import an ISO code?
    2. Can I start engaging with the text before setting up the script, or is there some reason why I should sort the script import in Wikisource first?
  5. Can someone else check to confirm that this text is either not already in Wikisource, or otherwise, confirm that I can just start playing around with an upload?
    1. I found es:Popol Vuh but I am not sure which version of text this is or what the source is.

Thanks. Please no one put too much effort into answering these questions. I am still exploring options, and just want casual thoughts at this time. Bluerasberry (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is not common here, but we have Hail Mary here for example. -jkb- (talk) 09:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that is helpful. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
my pleasure :-) -jkb- (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, MediaWiki can handle any Unicode text, so adding text in K'iche script should be no problem as long as it uses Unicode (but what else would it use in 2021?). This doesn’t ensure that readers will be able to read it, though, but it depends on fonts installed on their computers, for which you/we can only add advice. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021[edit]

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030(_AT_)wikimedia.org with questions.

Xeno (WMF) 16:50, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Server switch[edit]

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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
  • If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
  • We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the Community Tech[edit]

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Working with other websites (an online library of religious texts)[edit]

While I frequent Wikisource as a reader I don't edit here, so I am quite curious if there are any efforts to reach out to entire websites to import them. While researching religion in South Vietnam I recently found a website called Sacret-Texts.com, they seem to know a lot about US copyright and try to make sure that as much as possible on their website is in the public domain. This website seems like "a perfect match" for Wikisource, is it already being used as a source? Is it useful or do the actual texts need to be available and not just online transcriptions? --Donald Trung (talk) 12:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you must ask at the vietnamese Wikisource. Cheers, -jkb- (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
These are all in English though. -- Donald Trung/徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 07:58, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Donald Trung: English texts should go to English Wikisource. Here is primarily a place for texts without their own linguistic domain (or free in US, but not free in the country of origin if not accepted in their linguistic domain). Ankry (talk) 17:07, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-37[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 September. It will be on all wikis from 16 September (calendar).
  • Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner. [6]
  • You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [7]
  • The syntax highlight tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally, golang can now be used as an alias for the Go programming language, and a special output mode has been added to show a program's output. [8][9]

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15:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Asking for delete[edit]

The book I currently working Index:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf is same as ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း. Can I make a request to delete ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း ? P0rnytail (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@P0rnytail: Why would we? The goal of proofreading is to eventually transclude the proofread text in the main namespace; the Index and Page namespaces are behind-the-scenes stuff. Instead of deleting, just overwrite the content with the <pages/> tag transcluding the proofread text when you’re done with the proofreading. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So, I should move my text to that page after completed. Is that right? If so, what is the role of PDF file on WikiCommons? Should I request to delete that after all the previous stuff done? P0rnytail (talk) 16:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, you should transclude it with the wikicode <pages index="ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf" from="3" to="119" /> (assuming that Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/3 is the first and Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/119 is the last page containing actual content); obviously this requires that you don’t request deleting any content. There are two purposes of uploading PDFs to Commons: first, it helps the digitization of the book (people without access to a physical copy can help, and you can more easily work in smaller chunks, e.g. digitize one page at a time); second, they serve as a source, anyone can check if the Wikisource text matches the original work. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-38[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
  • MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed. [10]
  • A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.

Problems

  • There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers. [11]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 September. It will be on all wikis from 23 September (calendar).
  • Advanced item The meta=proofreadpage API has changed. The piprop parameter has been renamed to prpiprop. API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0. [12]

Future changes

  • The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. [13]
  • Advanced item The previously announced change to how you obtain tokens from the API has been delayed to September 21 because of an incompatibility with Pywikibot. Bot operators using Pywikibot can follow T291202 for progress on a fix, and should plan to upgrade to 6.6.1 when it is released.

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18:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24[edit]

Dear fellow Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Movement Charter process. We have closed the call for candidates on September 14 for the Drafting Committee and now have a pool of candidates with diverse backgrounds to choose from. As the number of candidates is quite large and thus informing yourself about them might be a bit more complicated, we want to try something different this time: an “Election Compass", more about it in this page.

The 15 member committee will be selected with a 3-step process:

  • Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
  • Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
  • Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.
Communities elect 7 members
This announcement is related to the community elections, which will take place in a time period of 2 weeks from October 11 to October 24. We look forward to a wide participation across the communities to create the committee to curate the writing of the Movement Charter. The Election Results will be published on November 1.
Affiliates select 6 members
Parallel to the election process, all affiliates asked to contribute as well: All affiliates were divided into eight geographic and one ‘thematic’ region (check the list), and each region chooses one person who will act as a selector for that region. These 9 selectors will come together to select 6 of the committee (from the same pool of candidates). The selection results will be published on November 1.
Wikimedia Foundation appoints 2 members
Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation will appoint two members to the committee by November 1.

All three processes will be concluded by November 1, 2021, so that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee can start working by then.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030@wikimedia.org).

Best regards, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 10:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Author Pages[edit]

Can anybody provide me with a list of "template" etc pages I need to download / translate in order to create "Author Pages" to Cy-Wikisource, at the moment I'm using the "category pages" to include author details, which is where the author line in transclusion pages goes. But I would prefer dedicated pages, but can't work out how to create them or link to them to them AlwynapHuw (talk) 02:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-39[edit]

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Recent changes

  • iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.

Problems

  • Advanced item Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the portlets (article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class .vector-menu-dropdown-noicon. [14]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 September. It will be on all wikis from 30 September (calendar).
  • The GettingStarted extension was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed Growth features provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October. [15]
  • A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old root certificate will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can read more.
  • You can receive notifications when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find more information in T282029.

Future changes

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22:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements[edit]

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Hello!

Have you noticed that some wikis have a different desktop interface? Are you curious about the next steps? Maybe you have questions or ideas regarding the design or technical matters?

Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on October 12th, 16:00 UTC on Zoom. It will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

  • Update on the recent developments
  • Sticky header - presentation of the demo version
  • Questions and answers, discussion

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes will be taken in a Google Docs file. The presentation part (first two points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the talk page or send them to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Olga Vasileva (the team manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) 15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'd like to remind that the meeting will happen today. You are welcome to join! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 15:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-40[edit]

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Recent changes

  • A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 October. It will be on all wikis from 7 October (calendar).
  • Advanced item Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The hidden property will no longer say an entry is implicit for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the value false for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response. [17]
  • A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for all production wikis. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can let the developers know.

Future changes

  • You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the iOS Wikipedia app. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions. [18]
  • Advanced item The JavaScript variables wgExtraSignatureNamespaces, wgLegalTitleChars, and wgIllegalFileChars will soon be removed from mw.config. These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript. [19]
  • Advanced item The JavaScript variables wgCookiePrefix, wgCookieDomain, wgCookiePath, and wgCookieExpiration will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead use mw.cookie from the "mediawiki.cookie" module. [20]

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16:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Remove main namespace from wgExtraSignatureNamespaces[edit]

I am planning to remove the main namespace from the wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration setting on this wiki. I think this will have very little impact, but letting you know just in case. For more context, see task T291630 (although I'm happy to reply here if you have any questions).

Currently, that configuration setting affects:

It was configured that way in 2014 for all "special" wikis (basically, anything other than the Wikimedia projects with multiple language versions), on the assumption that they often have discussions, including their "village pump" equivalent, in [main namespace]. This doesn't seem correct for this wiki. We're planning to use that config setting for future discussion-related features, and it would probably be unexpected if they showed up in the main namespace here.

Please let me know if there's any problem with this. Thanks. Matma Rex (talk) 18:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The change has been applied now. Matma Rex (talk) 11:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 October. It will be on all wikis from 14 October (calendar).

Meetings

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15:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Voting for the MCDC Election[edit]

Voting for the election of the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in this election.

Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.

The Movement Charter committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities will vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.

You can learn more about each candidate to inform your vote here

You can also learn more about the Drafting Committee here

We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! To try out this tool, visit: App

Go vote at SecurePoll: Vote

Read the full announcement: here

Best, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 15:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-42[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Toolhub is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can read more.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 October. It will be on all wikis from 21 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • The developers of the Wikipedia Android app are working on communication in the app. You can now answer questions in survey to help the development.
  • 3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a proxy or a VPN. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a discussion about this on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
  • Wikimedia Enterprise is a new API for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can read more. You can also ask the team questions on Zoom on 22 October 15:00 UTC.

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20:53, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Learn how Movement Strategy Implementation Grants can support your Movement Strategy plans[edit]

Movement Strategy Implementation grants now provide more than $2,000 USD to put Movement Strategy plans into action. Find out more about Movement Strategy Implementation grants, the criteria, and how to apply here.

Also, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee election is still ongoing. It would be great to increase community participation. If you haven't voted now is the time. Please vote here before October 24. Regards, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 12:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the Community Tech[edit]

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Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

  • Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
  • Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
  • Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-43[edit]

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Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 October. It will be on all wikis from 28 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax. [21]
  • The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change. [22]

Meetings

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20:08, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Inactive admins[edit]

There seem to be a number of inactive admins per [23].

Has the community attempted to contacted these users or alternatively, considered removing rights? --Rschen7754 00:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voting for desysoping[edit]

I think we should discuss this point - desysoping for long inactivity has happened here some more times, see Wikisource:Administrators#Desysoped for long inactivity. The five names users has not been active since end of 2019. This week I will try to contact them, but apart from this please do give your votes here. -jkb- (talk) 11:19, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I didn't see this, you are right, but the other four users are more than two years inactive. -jkb- (talk) 21:18, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Meet the new Movement Charter Drafting Committee members[edit]

The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.

The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.

If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.

With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team. --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 15:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-44[edit]

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Recent changes

  • There is a limit on the amount of emails a user can send each day. This limit is now global instead of per-wiki. This change is to prevent abuse. [24]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 November. It will be on all wikis from 4 November (calendar).

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20:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board 2[edit]

New beginning, see above #Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board. I'm like to change my mind. The different WMF staff, first of all Tech News etc., are really becoming "overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content." It is not easy to get hier an answer and to discuss our problems. O propose to order WMF staff to something like "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Tech news" or better "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements".

Let us discuss it, then we can reorder the announcements to the new place. Invited are all, and the users who started the first part above especiaslly - @Bluerasberry, Donald Trung:. Thanks, -jkb- (talk) 20:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reping
I made the original proposal, and I see there are other counter proposals. Here are the options proposed as I understand them:
  1. Do nothing, status quo
  2. Discontinue tech news entirely
  3. Set up new board, send tech news there
  4. status quo for tech news coming to this board, but archive it separately to a new board
I favor some change being made and still think the problem is serious enough to merit a response. This board should be a place for humans to have peer to peer interactions. Because these announcements are from outsiders rather than peers, and because they are off-topic for what humans on this board typically discuss, I feel that this board is not the place for those announcements. I support the messages going anywhere else where people can watch the board and access the messages as they like. It is not my intent to block access to the messages, but these are mass mailings and they do outnumber human posts which I see as much more valuable. Another aspect of solution that I want is something which is zero labor to maintain. If someone volunteers to keep up with archiving after a month then that might help, but I prefer a solution which does not require a human to commit to labor.
Thoughts from others? Bluerasberry (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It can be helpful messages, but I do see the problem of this page being cluttered up. Therefore, my preference goes out to a separate (sub)page for those messages to be posted on. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 17:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt anyone would read the Tech News messages if they weren't here on at least linked here. Ankry (talk) 22:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-45[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Mobile IP editors are now able to receive warning notices indicating they have a talk page message on the mobile website (similar to the orange banners available on desktop). These notices will be displayed on every page outside of the main namespace and every time the user attempts to edit. The notice on desktop now has a slightly different colour. [25][26]

Changes later this week

Future changes

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20:36, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Mensusa accounts[edit]

See User talk:-jkb-#ping ping :-), abuse filter 14, Meta CU request, regards -jkb- (talk) 18:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Own Checkuser on Oldwikisource - a proposal[edit]

See pls the previous topic #Mensusa accounts and the links to the abuse filter and the CU request at meta. Such request is quite simple (I was CU at Wikilivres for some time) but it costs the stewards a lot of time I guess. Something like this happens here not very often, but however, I think we could have our own checkuser. As far as I know there must be at least two persons (just to control each other, in some projects three etc.), might be we can vote for three. I can gladly apply for it as I know the CU procedure, but that's a matter of choice if we want it. Info: As far as I know, all check users at WMF must announce and confirm their real life identity. 1) do you think we can arrange this and 2) has somebody the interest to apply for it? -jkb- (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I find nepali language community to talk on wikisource?[edit]

Please redirect me to there.—unsigned comment by Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 14 November 2021 13:50.

I'm afraid there is no one. But try to find some similar languages on Category:Languages or Category:Babel or Category:Main Pages; however there exist the nepali main page where you could fine the authors who were editing it. -jkb- (talk) 13:13, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But I'm not sure if they still edit here, might be in this case you should try to reach them on their wikipedias. -jkb- (talk) 13:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why different languages have different kind of domains?[edit]

English wikisource opens in different format than nepali. While opening nepali wikisource, it is redirected from somewhere else. How to turn nepali wikisource into standard subdomain? —unsigned comment by Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 14 November 2021 13:55.

Tech News: 2021-46[edit]

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Recent changes

Problems

  • Sometimes, edits made on iOS using the visual editor save groups of numbers as telephone number links, because of a feature in the operating system. This problem is under investigation. [28]
  • There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of a configuration error. [29]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 November. It will be on all wikis from 18 November (calendar).

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22:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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20:02, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Talk to the Community Tech: The future of the Community Wishlist Survey[edit]

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Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 30 November (Tuesday), 17:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

  • Changes to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. Help us decide.
  • Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
  • Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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