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bn: উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যার আলোচনা করার এইটি একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
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"copyvio invasion" from cawiki/commons[edit]

I found some users that uploaded a lot of copyvios and not appropriate files / audio files here:

I have found their accounts with the same uploads on cawiki and/or commons, mostly blocked there indef. I blocked the user and deleted the files, but might be there are some elder left or they will come in the next future. Pls have a look at this. Thanks -jkb- (talk) 21:40, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

@Aleator: you have some idea? -jkb- (talk) 21:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

@-jkb-: It seems to be related to some news that say Wikimedia and Facebook have given Angolans free access to their websites, but not to the rest of the internet. So, naturally, Angolans have started hiding pirated movies and music in Wikipedia articles (...) (e.g. w:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-03-23/In_the_media). In Angola the spoken language is Portuguese, which fits with some of their edits, but I cannot understand why they choose to edit on ca.wiki (it makes no sense). I'll have a look to uploaded files all around. Thanks for ping (that's a good invention :) -Aleator 16:03, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh, thanks. OK, I am not admin on Facebook, and what WMF did concerning other projects ... OK, no comment. But all of the files and audio files were not sourced, not licenced / copyvios, fully out of scope here on sourceswiki. WMF should make an agreement where the kiddies can edit (yep, the most fotos were kids from Africa etc.); yep, the spoke portuguese so I don't know what they have been looking for in the dcatalan projets aölthough even editin in portuguese projets; the most blocks were on cawiki and commons (and now here). However, we have to delete the inputs. Thanks once more, -jkb- (talk) 01:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I am a bit unhappy about the ongoing problems with the angolan kids. Yes, everybody knows the huge problems over there, not only with the education, internet and the situation of the youth. And everybody, me inclusive, must support the thought (see Aleators report above) to support the young people there with free access or whatever to WMF projects. But the people who are responsible for this had to instruct them what where when and how they can edit here. At present it seems to be a problem here, on commons and on ca.wiki because the angolan users supply us with a great amount of copyvios and other not suitable files. It costs us time to repair it, and more over, I do not delete the files and I do not block the users with pleasure, I'm sorry about it, but otherwise a chaos will uprise here soon. Any idea somebody? @Aleator: do you know what responsible person in the WMF could be contacted in this matter? Regards -jkb- (talk) 23:33, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

I've been searching and it seems the problems started December 2014. In wmf:Wikipedia Zero there is a mail to WZ team. I've also found this july 2015 link in Meta (m:Wikimedia_Forum/Archives/2015-07#Wikipedia_Zero_being_used_to_violate_copyright) which lists some WMF members that may be interested, so I ping them all 3: @AVrana (WMF), Dfoy (WMF), Jalexander-WMF: (I'll also ping them from Commons because 2 first user account don't exist here at Multilingual Wikisource). In any case it seems that it is a group of youngs (w:pt:Usuário(a) Discussão:Evanildo Da Silva Tecnomant has written a list of friends very close to the list above). I'm sure: they will get tired soon. Best regards! -Aleator 00:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-50[edit]

19:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Numbers at the main page[edit]

What pages do you mean? I enter any language edition in the top ten and see completely different numbers... --Infovarius (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

@Infovarius: These are very old, outdated values based on these statistics. However, my attempt to update them almost a year ago was contested (see this discussion).
It seems there is no clear consensus which statistics should be used, if any. And it is a real problem as we have various statistics:
I can imagine many criteria that can be used. But, as various Wikisources are very different according to used technology, organization, encoding, etc., no single criterion allows to compare all Wikisources in a fair way. Just few examples:
criterion disadvantages
1. number of "good articles" definition of a good article varies among wikis: some wikis include pages from the Page namespace here, some do not; it is not fair to count a text from 50-page book as "1" when ProofreadPage is not used vs. as "51" when all 50 pages are "good articles"
2. number of pages in the main namespace in some wikis subpages are used to present short encyclopedic notes or dictionary entries; it is not fair to treat few-words entry in the same way as a novel; also some wikis use the Author ns, some present the same content in the main ns
3. number of pages in the main namespace (without subpages) in some wikis subpages are used for presenting content of large books; it is not fair to treat a multi-volume book in the same way as a short poem or large novel as a short poem; also some wikis use the Author ns, while others present information about authors in the main ns
4. number of "proofread" / "validated" pages in the Page namespace not all wikis use ProofreadPage; they would be discriminated
5. number of pages in the Page namespace as above + some wikis upload pure OCR which is not very valuable contribution
6. number of bytes in all pages some languages use mainly single-byte Unicode characters, some base on multi-byte characters; also in few wikis multiple copies of almost the same content may be present (various orthography / alphabet / presentation form versions etc.)
7. number of bytes in the main ns pages see above + in wikis using ProofreadPage the main ns contains almost no content
8. number of characters in all pages some languages are more compact, some are more verbose
9. database size each edit creates a new copy of the whole page in the database; so wikis with edits to large pages (not using ProofreadPage) would be preferred here
10. number of pageviews per day/month/year wikisource traffic is generally low and it is easy to falsify it; so not very reliable; our activity should be based on creating content, not on traffic generation
Maybe we should start the discussion again? I have no idea which criterion or which criteria are the best to be used on the main page. Ten of them seems to be too many. Ankry (talk) 15:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, good review. So many criteria... I can propose a new one: a number of creative works (can be obtained by a query to Wikidata). --Infovarius (talk) 15:57, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
You are joking, aren't you? Ankry (talk) 20:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

New way to edit wikitext[edit]

James Forrester (Product Manager, Editing department, Wikimedia Foundation) --19:32, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Abuse filter[edit]

@-jkb-, Jusjih, Satdeep Gill, Tpt, Yann:@Zyephyrus: To minimize recent problems with Angolan/Wikipedia_zero users using wikis as file-sharing sites, I just added a filter limitting file uploads by low-contribution users. Everybody is still authorized to upload djvu/pdf. Other files should mostly go to Commons. Let me know if you see any problem with this filter. Ankry (talk) 13:44, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

  • just as I told you on your talk page: very good and useful idea, thanks. -jkb- (talk) 14:41, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Amazing idea. Thank you. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 16:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-51[edit]

20:33, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Using AWB on Multilingual Wikisource[edit]

Multilingual Wikisource is not available as an option on AWB. Can anyone suggest a solution ? --Satdeep Gill (talk) 01:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@Satdeep Gill: OptionsPreferencesSiteProject: Customhttps://wikisource.org/w/. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:15, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Koavf: Thanks a lot. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 06:26, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Satdeep Gill: No problem. You will probably have better luck in the future getting questions answered if you post to w:WT:AWB but I monitor this page as well. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Removing gu[edit]

Wikisource:Languages I have edited this to remove Gujarati texts and requested that Category:Gujarati and Category:ગુજરાતી be deleted. s:gu: exists and no texts are hosted here (although the project page said otherwise until I edited it). —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:09, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

OK. Done. Ankry (talk) 19:15, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

New template to replace magic words[edit]

Template:ISBN I have ported over w:Template:ISBN and w:Module:Check isxn from en.wp. Magic words as links are being phased out and although we don't have to replace all instances of them now, they will all be removed from MediaWiki in 2017. See mw:Requests_for_comment/Future_of_magic_links. We currently have no entries in Category:Pages using ISBN magic links. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Pages to import[edit]

See here Evidently, incubator:Category:Wq/or/wikisource is hosting a work in Oriya which should probably be brought here. We currently have no Oriya texts. —Justin (koavf)TCM 00:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Oriya language has been already granted with a wikisource workplace 2.5 years ago: Oriya Wikisource; may we ping their village pump --C.R. (talk) 10:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@C.R.: Somehow, I had forgotten/overlooked that. How embarrassing. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:15, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: don't worry, hehe ^^.. but if you can, please ping them, I am sure they will be very happy about arranging their old stuff--C.R. (talk) 14:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
@C.R.: They were notified on their Scriptorium and I posted to the talk page of the only person with advanced user rights there. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:28, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

OCR in Hindi[edit]

I want to do OCR in Hindi wikisource which I am doing in Bengali wikisource using python based GoogleOCR tool in Linux past 1 year.Pls help me to upload in Hindi same way. What wil be language code in config.ini? Is it 'mul' If not then pls help me.By any chance is it due to abuse filter(limitation of file upload for low contribution user)? I am new to Hindi wikisource pls help me. Its not uploading after doing OCR. Sumita Roy Dutta (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

moved to a separate section - -jkb- (talk) 09:09, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
This abusefilter entry concerns file uploads only. djvu/pdf are excluded from this limit. I do not know which settings you should use. Ankry (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-02[edit]

19:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

canvassing a bit :-)[edit]

fyi, on meta I have requested for the right of global renamer, which could be of good use for this project a s well. Regards -jkb- (talk) 19:50, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-03[edit]

23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)