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nl : Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
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pt : Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
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su : Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv : Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
vi : Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
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[edit] Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants

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[edit] Wsexport : an automatic export tool for Wikisource fr

French Wikisource is working on an export tool in epub, odt and others formats. He is join to a website that automatically provide list of books from a category that mark that books are good for export. He works now only for the French Wikisource but we can imagine that he can be used for the others one. You are invited to test it here. The book metadatas harvesting in Wikisource is possible with this microformat implemented in most of French Wikisource templates. We will be glad if people of the others Wikisource works with us to provide a very good export of books ! The source-code of the tool and the website is available here. All help is welcome ! Tpt 21:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

WOW!!! We surely want to try it for Italian Wikisource! What do we need to do and how can we help you? Candalua 22:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

This is awesome! As Candalua, I'm definetely interested in this. How we (Italian Wikisource, and maybe Wikimedia Italia) can help you? How could we start testing our books (do you think we could use your code to run our site as well?) Aubrey 00:04, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
The stand alone export tool is now available on the toolserver. You can try it for books of non-French Wikisources but it won't work fine until you implement the microformat in the book templates like Intestazione or Prooferead_pages_header_template. When it will be done the export tool can include many metadata on books and remove navigation templates that were "ws-export" html class. We can imagine also provide italian books in a website, the same like the French one or an other one from the same source. We are waiting you on github ! Tpt 11:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
To implement the microformat, get a look a the end of fr:Modèle:Proofreadpage header template at the end of the template, the whole block of code <div id="ws-data" class="ws-noexport" style="display:none; speak:none;">..........</div> export the necessary data used by the export tool. — Phe 11:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Great! I added some microformat info on it.source (title, author, translator, year for the moment) and it seems to get them. I also added class="ws-noexport" in MediaWiki:Proofreadpage pagenum template, to hide unnecessary page links. There's just a small annoyance because in our Pages we have a <span class="SAL" that contains the page quality (useful to show it in the pagelinks), is it possible to hide it from the ePub?

Also, is it possibile to call the toolserver page passing along the language, the page title, and the file format? So that we can generate a link "Export in ePub" directly from the Header template?

Thanks very much to all of you for this amazing work! Candalua 14:25, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

For the <span class="SAL" the ws-noexport is maybe your help. Call the toolserver is of course possible with the "lang", "page" and "format" url params. Tpt 15:24, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, more generally I was thinking about the possibility of including a stylesheet on the ePub, so that every wikisource can create a page like Mediawiki:EPub.css with the styles they need to be included. It's true that we can simply add the necessary styles inline, but the page's html becomes heavier, and not all styles fit well both in the browser and in the ePub, sometimes you can have the need to render an element differently in the ePub and in the regular html page. What do you think? Candalua 16:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
It' not a bad idea. I will work on that tomorrow. Tpt 16:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
It's done. You can now use MediaWiki:Epub.css to provide css to epub files. Tpt 20:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the nice tool, i have added a css to de.ws and will try the css, if the tool is online again. Greetings --Michail 23:23, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
The tool is online again. I have make a mistake. Tpt 08:53, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
marvellous tool!
here a small bug: some of the original links into the text of pages lack of http: string, they appear as --src="//it.wikisource.org" instead of src="http://it.wikisource.org". Easy to fix I presume. I found it into the ePub from it:Georgiche.djvu. --Alex brollo 12:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
It's fixed. Tpt 16:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Tpt, is anywhere another place to post bugs? I have found small issues, and i think this thread here is not the perfect place for posting issues. But until we have a any bugfixing reporting tool (or whatever) i post the bugs that i found, also here. First: I think your bugfix for the issue one befor was not perfect, because links to the same page, anchor links like this <a href="#cite_note-33">, shows now a little bit strange ;-) <a href="http:#cite_note-33">. Here is now a http: what should not there. Second: It's a problem with german umlauts. You create the names of epub-file and included xhtml files a little bit wrong. You replace the german umlauts ü with eu, ä with ea and ö with eo. The correct replacement will be ue, ae and oe. It would be nice if you could fix these two small issues. And i have to say, it's a very cool tool. Greetings and i wish you and everyone a happy new year --Michail 00:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

What about adding epub files to the list of uploadable ones here? :-) --Alex brollo 06:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
For bugs, I've created a page on fr Wikisource. The bug with footnote is corrected. It's working again. For umlauts, it's strange,my regular expression only remove accentuation from letters, by exemple ü give u. But I think it's not important : nobody unzip the file. Happy new year ! Tpt 15:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
By the way, uploading EPub files is not allowed to commons because a EPUB sanitizer has to be writen first as indicated in this bug. Would you dare to write one? --Micru 21:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tpt, congratulations on your work! By the way, have you considered merging your efforts with Extension:EPubExport, or reusing some of their code? There were some comments about this extension in Bugzilla --Micru 16:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Upload of epub files is already possible here, just register (Alex, you're already registered). Nemo 14:08, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

LjL-2012 on IRC said he found this: https://code.google.com/p/wikipediaconv/ . Doesn't seem very useful (full dump to ePub??) nor able to generate good output, but seems worth testing if someone has Windows, just to try. Nemo 18:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. I'll test it and read the source code. Tpt 17:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

An other thing : is someone volunteer to create a logo for the export tool and website(s) ? It will be a grate improvement. Tpt 20:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Export tool integrate now a internationalisation system that works with a MediaWiki:Wsexport i18n.ini file. The reference file is here. An exemple in fr Wikisource Tpt 22:15, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't you use translatewiki:? It's much better than spreading translation and documentation on dozens of websites where translators can't even edit it. Thanks, Nemo 22:37, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


I've started Wikisource:WSexport, to gather all informations about the necessary configuration. Candalua 15:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't WSexport become a Mediawiki extension the same way as Extension:Proofread Page did?--Micru 16:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Maybe. But the integration will be an hard work. I'll work on that when I've more time. Tpt 17:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] माझगाव - पूर्वीच्या मुंबईच्या सात बेटांपैकी एक बेट

पूर्वीच्या मुंबईच्या सात बेटांपैकी एक बेट माझगाव : माझगाव हा शब्द माझं गाव आणि माझागोन (माझगाव वर पोर्तुगीज राज्य करीत होते) तर केथेलिक ह्याला माझगोन असेही म्हणत होते. हे सात बेटांपैकी एक बेट होय. माझगाव हा दक्षिण मुंबईचा विभाग असून रेल्वेच्या भायखला स्टेशन व हार्बरच्या डॉकयार्ड व सेंडहर्स्ट रोड स्टेशनने जोडले गेले आहे. माझगाव मध्ये केंद्र सरकारी संस्था जशा, मुंबई पोर्ट ट्रस्ट आणि माझगाव डॉक लिमिटेड असून, माझगाव कोर्ट किंवा न्यायालय देखील येथे आहे. इतकेच नव्हे तर येथे अेन्गलो इंडिअन शाळा असून त्यामध्ये सेंट पीटर आणि सेंट मेरी यांचा समावेश आहे.

माझगाव हा शब्द संस्कृत शब्द मत्स्य ग्राम या शब्दापासून तयार झाला आहे असे म्हणतात. याचा अर्थ माशांचा गाव असा होतो. येथील मूळ रहिवाशी हे आगरी आणि कोळी समाजाचे होते. याचबरोबर असेही मानण्यात येते कि माझगाव हा शब्द मराठी माझं गाव ह्या शब्दापासून तयार झाला आहे असे म्हणतात. माझगाव हा शब्द पोर्तुगीजान्पासून सुद्धा तयार झाला असावा असे म्हटले जाते. पूर्वीच्या काळी माझगाव हा विभाग आंब्याच्या झाडांसाठी फार प्रसिद्द होता. २० व्या शतकात देखील यांतील काही जाती दिसून आल्यात. हे छोटेसे बेट उत्तरेकडे वाढना-या छोट्या छोट्या डोंगरानि आणि बंदराकडील बाजूकडे किना-यांनी वेढलेले असून कोंकणाची आठवण करून देते. —unsigned comment by ‎ Mayurteem (talk) 16:32, 30 December 2011.

Sorry, I don't understand Marathi. Can a wikisourcian translate? --Zyephyrus 17:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
This seems to be encyclopedic information about w:Mazagaon in Marathi that would be better suited to Marathi Wikipedia. Shall I move it there? Shivashree 05:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, please. Thank you Shivashree! --Zyephyrus 13:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I checked, the article already exists on Marathi Wikipedia with about the same information. I am going to leave as it is without any merge. Mayurteem can add any further encyclopedic information on Marathi Wikipedia. He can certainly add original free source documents here. Shivashree 14:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Comparaison des sites Wikisoure

Bonjour et Bonne Année à tous, je ne sais plus où trouver le tableau de comparaison de différents Wikisource et leurs politiques respectives (scan, annotations, etc.) - Quelqu'un pourrait-il me redonner l'adresse, svp ? Merci d'avance,

Hello, and Happy New Year (a day late) : I lost the adress of the page which lists all wikisources and compares their policy (scan, notes, etc.) - Could someone point me again to it, please ? Thank you in advance…

--Hsarrazin 11:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikisource:Subdomain coordination. --Milda 11:42, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Merci, Thank you so much !! --Hsarrazin 11:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Aggiungere il supporto al formato epub in "carica un file"

Chiedo gentilmente a chi se ne occupa di aggiungere il supporto al formato epub in quanto esso è uno standard di fatto ed inoltre è un formato aperto e molto diffuso fra gli e-book reader. Scusate se ho commesso errori ma non conosco molto bene il sito (come utente registrato). GRAZIE PER L'ATTENZIONE

ps. I dont know english very well.

—unsigned comment by Jpalex (talk) 12:08, 4 January 2012‎.

Per quale scopo di preciso? Il problema non è tanto caricare file epub quanto esportarne a partire dal contenuto di Wikisource, i documenti nei wiki devono essere modificabili e quindi a livello HTML si continuerà sempre a lavorare sulle pagine wiki. Comunque se serve caricare file epub temporanei per qualche motivo è già possibile farlo in Biblioteca di Wikimedia Italia. Nemo 17:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

  • Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
  • New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
  • The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
  • Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
  • Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
  • Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
  • The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
  • More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
  • Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
  • Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
  • Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 16:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Wsexport: an automatic export tool for Wikisource

Hello, and first sorry for this automatic delivery message.

An export tool for Wikisource books, Wsexport, is currently in active development. It is a tool for exporting Wikisource's texts in EPUB, ODT and other file formats. It was created for French Wikisource, but it's also available for the other Wikisource subdomains. It can be used directly from its page on Toolserver.org (for texts in all languages, use "www" for oldwikisource), or browsing http://wsexport.fr.nf (currently only for French Wikisource's texts).

In order to work, the tool need some configuration from your Wikisource subdomain, This page explains how to do it. Currently French, Italian, English, and German Wikisource does it.

You will find more information on The global Scriptorium. Ask here for all question.

This message was distributed to all Wikisources using the Global message delivery system. If you want to use it to send your messages, ask for permission here. Tpt (d) 21:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Yesterday: Dies ater for the PUBLIC DOMAIN

Please discuss here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/All_files_copyrighted_in_the_US_under_the_URAA --Historiograf 21:07, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Vector interface customization

I'm dragging into vector interface customization, (adding/removing buttons and popups into toolbar [1]; adding/removing tools into sidebar; adding "tattoos"; adding to toolbar draggable() feature; and so on). Don't presume any special js skill by me; I only put into practice the pedia principle "be bold". :-(

Now, I've a bad (but rewarding) attitude to "rediscover the wheel", as my patient it.source fellows know very well; so I'm asking here: is some of you working about similar goal and tricks? Is there a page to discuss this kind of topics to share "just rediscovered wheels"? ;-) --Alex brollo 07:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I’m not working on it (I haven’t any skill in JS !), but I have a little remark : is it for it.ws only or for all the ws ? (or all the wikis ?) In both case, it could maybe be better to work on oldws (or on Translatewiki).
Cdlt, VIGNERON 21:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Marathi WS

Hi, I imported the Marathi pages to the newly created mr.wikisource.org subdomain (see mr:special:log/import or my userpage there for a list). These can probably be deleted here now. --MF-Warburg 17:17, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Please enter information as known at Wikisource:Subdomain coordination, so we know the policies and guidelines of the new subdomain.--Jusjih 14:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki 1.19

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 15:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Import Upload - revisited

I requested Import Upload privileges back in October (since archived, see this thread). Candalua and Ooswesthoesbes supported, there were no opposes. This action requires a local decision, probably by a crat and a request at the Steward request page on meta. We currently still have the problem that Transwiki import is enabled but broken due to some local settings (I submitted a bugzilla back in November, no action yet Bugzilla:32411). I have been waiting since October to be able to import a template from de.ws that is holding up work on a project but more importantly, we should have a few people around who can do this (Jusjih can, both as a steward and as a local import uploader but 1 person is clearly not enough as they aren't around day-to-day). Additionally, for large imports import upload is more useful. I re-post my request for further consideration or closure.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 02:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Stale bots and sysops discussion from last year

In October I started a thread on accounts with privileges that they don't seem to need: Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/Jan_2011_-_Dec_2011#Stale_bots_and_sysops. The thread included at least 4 comments in favor of deflagging Wolfbot and CSNbot and at least 2, maybe 3 for desysopping User:ThomasBot (no comments in favor of the bot remaining a sysop, just questions about whether he's coming back from others). I think we have enough to deflag to the two bots. Can we get that done? I will start a separate thread on the Sysop flag because there are other inactive sysops that we should discuss.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 03:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


+1 for deflagging all 3 (Wolfbot, CNSbot, ThomasBot). We have currently 4 bureaucrats: excluding -jkb-, the other 3 have been active recently, we can directly ask to one of them. Candalua 13:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Stale Sysops

Reference the discussion above and the one it references last October, I have started a pro forma desysop discussion on three sysops (ThomasBot, LadyInGrey, and Maximillion Pegasus) at Wikisource:Administrators#Vote_for_removal_of_administrator_privileges. The reasons are entirely for inactivity. I was going to include User:Dungodung but I noticed they have about a dozen recent log actions after some very long periods of inactivity, so I left them out. Please discuss at the Administrators page, not here.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 04:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I personally feel that inactivity is not a real valid reason to desysop an admin, so I'm going to abstain from voting. --Ooswesthoesbes 09:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Perdón por el español, es mi lengua nativa y me cuesta expesarme en inglés, aunque lo leo perfectamente. Todas las semanas entro a esta wiki en busca de vandalismos pero hay muchos administradores atentos y cumpliendo bien sus labores. No he editado desde hace mucho pero si consideran mejor que yo deje de ser admin, aceptaré la decisión de la comunidad. Un saludo, --LadyInGrey 03:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Wikisources' software application updated to 1.19wmf1

Hi to all. Just saw one of the techs pop into the Wikisource IRC channel, and that was a good indication that they have updated our mediawiki software. Please report errors or discrepancies that you see. I am not sure whether you would like to keep a record here of identified issues, or whether you would like to add them at en:WS:S#Issues log for mediawiki update to 1.19wmf1 billinghurst sDrewth 12:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Yep, from what I can tell they did the update on all Wikisources, except here on oldwikisource (see Special:Version). They will probably do this site in the next days.
BTW, we have some problem on it.wikisource: we have some gadgets that add custom buttons to the ProofreadPage toolbar. But after the update they seem to load before the ProofreadPage extension, so they don't work because the toolbar is not loaded. Do you know a solution for this? Candalua 14:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I found the same error: es:Las mujeres de la independencia: 02, 03, 04, 05; 06, 07 ::¿¿(E2.80.94)??. --LadyInGrey 14:46, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
The problem was in MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js, the string "E2.80.94" probably has some special meaning that I don't know. Tell me if you find other pages with this error. Candalua 16:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, Candalua, --LadyInGrey 17:38, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Do you know if this problem is related to the upgrade? --Zyephyrus 08:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Special:AbuseFilter/1 is the reason, whether the update has activated your abuse filter or not is unknown. The filter shows that it has been there since the middle of last year. Three ways to tackle it. 1) turn it off (yuck would be my thought); 2) if you think that it is harsh to disallow, then you could change it to Warn; 3) either to disallow or warn, you can create custom message rather than the default which sounds a little melodramatic. billinghurst sDrewth 09:16, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you sDrewth, this is more understandable for me now. --Zyephyrus 15:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] new tool

There's a new tool for namespace Page, that shows one or more tabs with a link to the texts that trasclude the current page. You can see it in action on Page:Fluors_alpinas.djvu/20 and the following pages (the tab "Text" near the up arrow). It was developed for it.source by it:User:Alex brollo, and it's now available for all subdomains (instructions on MediaWiki:TranscludedIn.js). Candalua (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to work when the ns0 page title includes a non-letter symbol. Page:Fluors alpinas.djvu/85, a poem with a question mark in the title, ommits the question mark in the link. In "What links here" it works normally, however. This could especially cause issues on pages and subdomains with non-latin script, e.g. our Hindi pages or the Japanese subdomain. --Kazu89 (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed, now it uses the native mediawiki function to get the encoded url. Thank you very much. Candalua (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Changes like this one needs a centralized roll-out. The most active languages have volunteers that can update local templates (MediaWiki:TranscludedIn.js), but this will not happen in the smaller languages, and so we end up with very different levels of functionality. --LA2 (talk) 18:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Help for creating a Wikisource in a new language

I was trying to find a guide for creating a Wikisource in a new language and couldn't find one. I can write one myself, but i'm just making sure that there isn't one already... Is there? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 22:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

All can be found here. For Wikisource the process is fairly simple: add a request on the Request for new languages page on meta and start working. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 09:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm a langcom member, so i know that page fairly well :)
I'm talking more about a detailed technical guide for people who are not experienced with MediaWiki, but want to start a Wikisource in their language, something that would explain how to add your language to the list, how to create a category for it, how to start adding texts, how to sort them to groups, how to makes books and chapters etc. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 09:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Problem on Bugzilla

Take a look at bug 18861 on Bugzilla. In short - at the moment, any content generated by templates is ignored by the search engine, i.e. pages transcluded in proofread extension. That means that over 50% of content on multiple Wikisource projects (i.e. French, Polish or Norvegian) is inaccessible to search engine. However, with recent developments on Bugzilla it seems that the problem will not be resolved in the foreseeable future. --Teukros (talk) 18:44, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Adminship

I have the project to rewrite and improve some of the Wikisource:Shared Scripts with the new mediawiki JS libs and create new ones using our new amazing microformat system, so I request adminship in this wiki in order to work without asking each hours. Tpt (talk) 18:22, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Punjabi (pa)

Hello, I was wondering why there isn't a punjabi wikisourceNo community, no wonder. I know atleast one author (w:en:Bulleh Shah) whose works are in punjabi and in the public domain. Plus, I happen to have some of the works. I can type punjabi. I cannot get a scan of the works. I do not know panjabi enough to start a wikisource on my own.nor is one person community enough Panjabi wikipedia has very little or no community to ask for help (haven't tried to ask there yet).

Any suggestions on how to proceed?

PS: This website seems to have works too, although in a non-unicode font.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 02:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Modifications in superscript.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 02:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello Siddharta,

this is the right place to start adding Punjabi texts. I see from the 2 texts in Category:Punjabi that you already guessed which templates to use (Header + Textinfo). If you want, you can also create a copy of those templates and translate/adapt them for Punjabi. Many languages have the habit of placing Textinfo in the talk page, but I find it very disturbing, I worry that many readers will probably not found it; my advice is to put textinfo in the same page of the text. Best solution I think is to create a new template using the content of both Header and Textinfo; but feel free to do what you prefer. You can also create a Main page/pa (or whatever you prefer to name it) on the example of these ones. It would be better to have works with scans, but if you can't find any, no problem. Good work! :-) And ask if you need anything else :-) Candalua (talk) 21:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The template use is courtesy the helpful people at IRC #wikisource. I'd rather just add texts for now. As I'm not a regular contributor, I won't be getting into where to place which template. Doesn't oldWS have a policy for this?
When there is a sufficient number of pages in pa, then maybe I'd work on a mainpage (and name it whatever pa-wp uses).
The problem with getting scans is that its just too costly.
Just one question, the website I linked to above contains works of other authors too, which I do not have physically. However, the site isn't very reliable for texts (I've found variations in the site and my physical source in the two texts I've added). Should it be used for the other authors' texts then? Or should we wait for someone to find a physical source and eventually add the texts?
Thanks :) Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 19:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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