Wikisource talk:Speeches

List of speeches: Revision history (at Wikiquote) prior to transferring here.

(cur) (last) . . 12:11, 18 Feb 2004 . . Kalki (beginning preparations for transfer of speeches to wikisource… might be a few days of checking procedures to make sure I do it properly.)

(cur) (last) . . M 13:07, 5 Feb 2004 . . Kalki

(cur) (last) . . 13:04, 5 Feb 2004 . . Kalki (add notice about Vfd)

(cur) (last) . . 21:40, 28 Jan 2004 . . 68.167.224.116

(cur) (last) . . 21:37, 28 Jan 2004 . . 68.167.224.116

(cur) (last) . . 21:37, 28 Jan 2004 . . 68.167.224.116

(cur) (last) . . 10:42, 17 Jan 2004 . . 137.132.3.9

(cur) (last) . . 07:54, 26 Nov 2003 . . Kalki (add note about Wikisource to the header, with link)

(cur) (last) . . M 20:46, 21 Nov 2003 . . Kalki

(cur) (last) . . 20:45, 21 Nov 2003 . . Kalki (FDR's First Inaugural)

(cur) (last) . . M 17:10, 21 Nov 2003 . . Kalki

(cur) (last) . . 17:10, 21 Nov 2003 . . Kalki (The Four Freedoms… )

(cur) (last) . . 11:36, 21 Nov 2003 . . Zanimum

(cur) (last) . . 16:41, 5 Nov 2003 . . Colipon

(cur) (last) . . 04:52, 3 Nov 2003 . . 210.50.30.20 (tidy)

(cur) (last) . . 20:44, 28 Sep 2003 . . Basil Fawlty

(cur) (last) . . M 15:34, 24 Sep 2003 . . Nanobug

(cur) (last) . . 21:26, 23 Sep 2003 . . 130.194.13.106

(cur) (last) . . 05:12, 4 Sep 2003 . . Formulax

(cur) (last) . . 14:16, 2 Sep 2003 . . Montrealais

(cur) (last) . . 07:23, 2 Sep 2003 . . Nanobug (ordered alphabetically)

(cur) (last) . . M 03:15, 2 Sep 2003 . . Formulax

(cur) (last) . . 03:04, 2 Sep 2003 . . Formulax

(cur) (last) . . 02:58, 2 Sep 2003 . . Formulax

(cur) (last) . . M 09:20, 17 Aug 2003 . . Ijon (corrected possessive apostrophe use )

(cur) (last) . . 03:42, 17 Aug 2003 . . Cimon Avaro (Pericles' Funeral Oration)

(cur) (last) . . M 22:05, 16 Aug 2003 . . Sasha (added sweat of the damned)

(cur) (last) . . M 16:45, 14 Aug 2003 . . Nanobug

(cur) (last) . . M 16:40, 14 Aug 2003 . . Nanobug

(cur) (last) . . 16:59, 13 Aug 2003 . . Cimon Avaro (Adding the title of the speech. I have the text too, but what about copyright?)

(cur) (last) . . 16:58, 6 Aug 2003 . . Zanimum

(cur) (last) . . M 07:55, 25 Jul 2003 . . Nanobug

(cur) (last) . . 00:05, 25 Jul 2003 . . Formulax

(cur) (last) . . M 10:24, 24 Jul 2003 . . Koxinga (little presentation of speech)

(cur) (last) . . 07:23, 24 Jul 2003 . . Nanobug (only one so far)

--end of list of edits at Wikiquote — Kalki 14:31, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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I have been jamming a lot of RR speeches into the 1980s section. Mostly just as an idle experiment. How will this page look when we have all the State of the Union Speeches? This stuff really adds up. [[PaulinSaudi 16:38, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)]]

If the page becomes too large we can just create sub-pages for each decade in the same way as the author page has been divided by letter. Another possibility is to divide the speeches by type, i.e. collecting all the State of the Union Speeches in one page and all the Inaugural Addresses in another. Christian S 18:12, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I think that for the sake of organization, it would be more beneficial to divide the speeches by type--or at least add categories for the large collection of speeches like Inaugurals and State of the Unions. Putting such a vast number of speeches really seems like it clutters up the section. And it will make searching the Speeches category easier because those who want to read Inaugurals will know exactly where the whole collection is and those who want to read just plain speeches won't be assaulted by the multitude of Inaugurals and State of the Unions. Zhaladshar 18:27, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I think you're right. Organization by type will make the speeches easier to browse, subpages can then be created for types with many entries. Christian S 19:02, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Agreed, but no real need to act now. Just eventually. [[PaulinSaudi 19:08, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)]]

I have a question. Half of the speech authors are linked to their bios on Wikipedia and the other half are linked to their author pages on Wikisource. Which one should we do? Zhaladshar 13:58, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

In my oppinion, links to the author pages on Wiksourse is to be prefered. The author pages should then link to biography pages on those 'pedias that have them.--Christian S 18:11, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Agreed, we have reached a certain critical mass, and as we continue to review we ought to go to links to new author pages. [[PaulinSaudi 12:20, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)]]

For those looking to add State of the Unions you will find most at americanpresidency.org. [[Jascha 00:59:10 Wed Jul 14 2004 (UTC)]]

I hope y'all don't mind, but I sub-divided the speeches from the year 2000 onwards by individual year, because it was getting quite lengthy, and it's easier to view at a glance. Mosmi 22:36, 8 July 2005 (UTC)

Reorganizing page

I know in the past we have discussed this, but I am bringing it back up. Would anyone be too upset if I removed all the State of the Union and presidential Inaugural Addresses and put them on their own pages? This page is getting so cluttered with these speeches that finding any other (and due to the work of PaulinSaudi and AllanHainey, we are getting many more speeches) is impossible. | 13:06, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Right at this point, I do not find it to be cumbersome. I like how we can see the flow of history. (Although it will get cumbersome at some point.) Want to see a mess? Go to Wikisource:Historical documents. Act as you will Z, but I do not think we need surgery here, yet. PaulinSaudi 14:14, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Alright, I'll wait until it finally gets to be a problem (although, I hope it happens soon). And the Historical documents section is a huge mess. Someone really ought to fix it up... | 14:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that we need to move all the state of the Union & inaugural speeches to their own pages just yet, although with a SotU every year and an Inaugural every 4 these will continue to mount up if there is any concentrated effort to add them all. I think we can wait a little while yet before it gets too cluttered but it is something we may need to do at some time. If we do though it is going to leave the 18th & parts of the 19th c quite bare, but that's not an argument for leaving it just for getting a wider range & variety of speeches. AllanHainey 08:19, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I thought we had all the SoUs (even though the early ones were not speeches) and all the Inaugurals. Did I miss some? PaulinSaudi 11:55, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

You may know better than me as I'm not American but I'd thought that there was a SotU every year & on wikisource we don't have any for most of the 19th c. It looks like we have all the inaugural speeches, though I haven't counted them. AllanHainey 14:12, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I started adding the SotU addresses a little while ago, but have stopped for the time being. I have not finished adding them--I think I stopped halfway through the 20th centruy, andI will probably not add any more until we get a page dedicated solely to them (although anyone else can add them). SotU addresses are not constitutionally spelled out as to how often they are given, but precedence is yearly. | 18:18, 25 July 2005 (UTC)