User:BirgitteSB

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I am more active at en:User:BirgitteSB.

• Sometime around May 25 I saw a notice on the Community portal to Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles and I was shocked that the backlog was so large that Articles tagged in Dec of 2005 where being worked on. I started to help out. I never sign up for these things even though I have pitched in with several, like the Biography Unassesed Article Drive, in the past.
• Most of what I did in the following days was retag articles which had {{unreferenced}} with {{refimprove}} or {{primarysources}} working through various letters in the categories.sample contribs The large majority of articles in these categories did actually have at least one source. However I also actually read through many articles and did other things as needed. I assesed articles, removed unsourced accusations of killing people, redirect to alternate named article on same subject, tagged copyvios, outright removed ref tags, etc. Basically I made several 100's of edits to these articles tagged for a year or more, with the approach that they likely need attention on several fronts. I watchlisted all the artilces I edited and when I see a good, significant, non-IP edit come up I unwatch them figuring that if there were concerns with my actions something would have been said by then. I was not looking out to mass-delete articles, although going through these categories I certianly saw the necessity for deletions. I was editing responsibly; improving Wikipedia.
• As I was going through these edits I was leaving truly unreferenced articles alone. I was think first clean up the category then deal with what truly belongs in the category. Other people taking part of the project quicky cleared out Dec 05-May 06. None of these where even close to the monster that is June 06. A good number of articles from those categories where run through prod. Maybe 20 or so, I can't link to them of course. I looked over those articles as they were in the waiting period and felt I understood which sort of non-notabilities or violations of WP:NOT would be appropriate for prod.
• I was hesistant to start putting article through prod because of the situation on my watchlist. I decided I should start an alt account with a clean watchlist so I would not miss any concerns over articles I prod, and would be able to watch for any recreations. I created User:Birgitte-prod and left a note explaining why on my main user page.
• On two days (May 31 and June 2) I tagged about 27 articles with prod. I notified not only notified the creator, but also any other significant contirbuter I noticed in the history.diff diff While looking through the history I dilgently checked previous prods and altered any I found to AFD. oops needs afd. I responded to remarks made on the talk page questioning my actions with a calm civil explantionNotability - reply. Of course I cannot show diffs for the articles I first checked the discussion of to find a previous AFD Keep/no consensus notice which I didn't prod or the many more articles which have been unreferenced since June 2006 that a simple reading of the article clearly convinced me that it was notable. On May 31st I read all these things as I went, spending a few minutes on each article. On June 2 I first checked articles and discussion pages making a list before tagging anything for prod which let me edit about once per minute (still hardly bot-speed). The point is I was editing in a careful and responsible manner and not like a bot. In all the alternate account has less than a hundred edits total over a three day period. Obviously Rebecca has contested some of these prods, so they were not the uncontroversial deletion candidates as I believed at the time. I understand that my judgement was in error in some cases and I am happy to readust my criteria for which articles are uncontroversial deletion candidates in response. After Rebecca reviews I still have 14 active prods and one AFD with no oppostion.
• Based on the prods Rebecca disagreed with she blocked User:BirgitteSB-prod indefinately, with IP blocking, reasoning "Mass-prodding pages at random for being unreferenced, many indisputable notable." She left a note on my talk page stating she had blocked your User:BirgitteSB-prod bot account for mass-prodding pages on the basis that they were unreferenced. . . Please find some other means of handling unreferenced articles. She also uses rollback to revert about 7 of the prods I placed, despite the fact that it was not vandalism. Of course I think it is clear that my account was 1) Not a bot (<100 over three day, sometimes at 1 edit per minute) 2) Obviously not "prodding pages at random" 3) Proding page for being non-notable (plenty of non-refernced articles were not prodded and I mention the non-notabilty in my reason) 4)Obviously going to be on the same IP address as my main account. 5)I was also clearly "handling unrefeernced articles" by other means only prodding where I believed it to be appropriate. On top of the unsoundness of Rebecca's reasoning and her technical incompetence she blocked me A)Without first addresing her concerns with me B)Without any preventative purpose (indefinate block on an account not editing at the time). The mistakes I numbered show a lack of dilgence but the ones I lettered are completely unacceptable and inexcusable. Rebecca needs to understand that disscusion before a block and preventive motivations are an absolute neccessity when blocking established contributors.
• Eventually despite there being confusion and my auto-unblock request being declined someone unblocks my IP, but doesn't notify me so I leave some messages on my talk page to explain the truth of the situation and outlining why the block was inappropriate asking Rebecca to respond. OK you blocked an account that was not a bot, was not actively making edits at the time, without adressing the issue with me personally, AND you blocked my IP so I cannot edit at all. I expect you to seriously change your blocking procedures. The above block was completerly out of line and is quite an inconvience since I can't edit at all now. Just to be clear (clarify issues) . . . I am signing off for the night but someone please copy this to Rebecca talk page. Rebecca, you seriously need to think about what you are doing with the block button. You need to be certain you resoning is sound and you need to know how blocking actually works regarding the IP.
• Rebecca responds with I did not realise that it was a manually-operated account . . . How on earth did you get to the conclusion that they were "uncontroversial deletion candidates"? There is not a chance in hell that any of those I've listed would have even passed AfD. Which is certainly less civil than anything I have written, and I was the one improperly blocked. She does not lift the improper block or address any of the issues I raised with her actions.
• I leave her note with the explantion she asked for and reassuring her I will readjust my criteria based on her concerns. And asking her once again to adress my concerns about the inappropriate block.